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post #11 of 52 (permalink) Old 07-23-2019, 03:55 PM Thread Starter
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I drove it that day frommissori to greensburg Pa. I pulled in to get gas
When I started it up, put it in first to let the clutch out. The fro t end went down and the motor died down some. But the bike never moved. The temp gauge wasn't quite half way, it being 96 out. I checked the master cylinder and was almost dry. I put dot 3 in and bled the slave cylinder but still no forward gears. I jacked it up and preyed back the rubber boot covering drive shaft
On start up the back wheels will turn, but I can stop them with my hands while it is gear. Had my wife stop them from turning and the output shaft stops turning
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No noise what,so ever. All quiet.
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I have a spline shaft. Pulled it and everything checked out. Could the slave cylinder cause this. When I opened the master cylinder, the tiny bit of fluid that was on their was black with some black sh-- in the master cylinder.I cleaned out all of the black stuff with air. When I bleed the slave cylinder black fluid comes out.
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You may want to rebuild the slave cylinder and replace the seal. There's a kit to rebuild it but the seal is not included. The seal if it fails allows the hydraulic fluid to seep into the engine.


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Well, if the clutch is toasted (failed)
on the up side, it can be replaced without removing the engine on a 1500.


I just don't believe this is a hydraulic problem so suddenly, especially as you have had the bleeder valve open.

A failure in the hydraulic operating system (master cylinder / line / slave cylinder) would prevent you from disengaging the clutch to sit at traffic lights in gear or to shift, etc. It would not prevent the transfer of power to the transmission or driveline. Smoked or worn clutch disc, broken basket, stuff like that would stop the transfer of power to the transmission or driveline A really worn set of discs would still maybe transfer just enough power to rotate the drive unloaded rear wheels with little or no noise heard.

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Like Dave said in post #5, a hydraulic problem would have the opposite effect.
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Here's another check he can make, if by chance the level of the engine oil is higher than it should be, that's where the hydraulic fluid migrated to and why the reservoir is empty.


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The clutch reservoir only holds a couple of ounces. And if there is still some action, said reservoir hasn't gone completely empty.
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You may want to rebuild the slave cylinder and replace the seal. There's a kit to rebuild it but the seal is not included. The seal if it fails allows the hydraulic fluid to seep into the engine.
As I said, it is not likely a clutch hydraulic problem. The master and slave release the clutch, they do not engage the clutch. Instead of no forward gears you would have gears but wouldn't be able to disengage them. I could ride it like that but a lot of motorcycle drivers wouldn't know what to do.

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Can you feel the normal resistance of the clutch springs, when you pull the lever?
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