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My 2003 Accord Coupe (6 speed manual V6, if it makes any difference) had a drive-by-wire throttle, and it was razor-sharp. Could not tell any difference between it and a throttle cable, except the pedal was extremely smooth.


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The electronic throttle control makes sense when it's difficult to have a direct mechanical system. On motorcoaches the throttle cables are over 45' long. Electronic control makes sense, less pressure on the threadle to work it and no problem routing the cables. They do lose a bit in sensitivity and finesse. On a bike with such short distances from handlebar to engine it doesn't seem worthwhile to me for the extra complication.
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Complexity does not travel well with reliability.

We have reached the point where we would be better off using technology where we need it, not just because we can.

And of course these devices would be much cheaper for a Honda Goldwing wouldn't they?
You mean like cruise control, heated seats, GPS navigation, etc; etc?

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I agree with Rudy, I work all day long on these Hi tech wonder car electronics and I for one can do with the simple cables. I want to ride my wing not work for hours tracking down a bad connection in the hundereds of feet of wires and connectors. The newer wings are bad enough much less add more complication. Just my opinion
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Gets back into some of the old days, where I'm sure there was the same debate going on with fuel injection. Questions of it being more or less reliable then carbs and so forth. I would say on the hole the throttle by wire would be more reliable.

Mind you, I know everything about nothing and nothing about everything.
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TBW is a great idea when it works well. You getinstant no-lag (or programmed lag)response and a light but positive feel. It's not all rosy though. I've had to replacepickup sensorsand foot transmitters in more than a few cars, Renault and Fiat usually and there's a lot to be said for good old-fashioned simplicity that you get with cables. On motorcycles you would have the additional issues of waterproofing the components, especially at the handlebar end. But if anyone can do this, I'm sure Honda can.
Don't forget that once the elecronic parts go into mass production, they probably would be cheaper to make than the traditional throttle cables and pulleys.

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Call me a Luddite but I'm not a big fan of electronic systems in vehicles.

My BMW 535i ran out of electrons one day while I was sitting in a drive thru at a bank. I had shut the engine off and it didn't start again. Cost $600 for a new computer plus the cost of the tow.

Those things break at the worst time and there is not usually a work around to get you home.


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Unfortunately, like it or not, electronic is the sign of the future and actually more economical to produce.

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The 08 Harley Road King & Electra Glides have throddle by wire.

My wife would only let me own 1 vehicle with the work MOTOR in the name. The MOTORhome was sold and a MOTORcycle was bought.
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