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I would like to see Honda develop a throttle by wire like a lot of the newer cars and trucks have. It a very dependable system with no mechanical cables to stick or break.

Honda is good to be the first to add new features that other motorcycles don't have and this would be another feather in their hat I think.

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dont sell your self short though! i drive a semi at work and they are all like that, true that they are reliable. the only bad thing is that there is a very touchy sensor that is on the fuel pedal (or grip in this case), and the sensors are very expensive. the only difference betewwn the drive by wire and the link system that most cars and the gl's have is that the sensor that i am refering to (throttle posistion Sensor (TPS)) is on the engine on the itkae manifold instead of the grip and also if they were to go to that, wich im sure they will eventually, you have to put some sort of damper system to control the air as well. thats just my personal opinion, and i also know where you are coming from but i think that i would rather have the system they have now. just wish that mine was fuel injected then it wouldnt be such a pain to start after sitting for a while!

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i have 9 trucks that are drive by wire, the biggest problem with them besides the replacement cost is the rheostat is a winding and with wear you get nil contact spots, so you can imagine where that will take you in built up traffic......just my 2 cents and experiences....

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The throttle by wire on my '04 Ford F150 has a small motor on the throttle body that controls the air instead of a mechanical cable. The throttle positioning sensor is on the opposite side of the throttle body.
I don't doubt the technology is available but I believe it will probably be a while before we see it on a Gold Wing.

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I don't think it will ever be as good as a plain old throttle cable.

Too much lag in the response software. Engineers who think they know what you need, versus you needing to twist the wick "right now".

I have a Dodge truck with a Cummins engine. Those TPS things are a big source of problems, and very expensive. I just paid $175.00 at the wholesale price to replace mine. Retail is almost $300 which is what you would get clipped with if you had the dealer change it out.

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Complexity does not travel well with reliability.

We have reached the point where we would be better off using technology where we need it, not just because we can.

And of course these devices would be much cheaper for a Honda Goldwing wouldn't they?




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Sorry the Yamaha 2006 R6 already had it first =)

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The throttle by wire is much more responsive than any cable control system I've had any experience with.

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I'm impressed that some manufacturer has already got onto the band wagon. I bet it works very well and smooth.

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The throttle by wire is much more responsive than any cable control system I've had any experience with.

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I'm impressed that some manufacturer has already got onto the band wagon. I bet it works very well and smooth.
hey kikker, read the reviews matee, not what you would think from what i have read....

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The electronic throttle control makes sense when it's difficult to have a direct mechanical system. On motorcoaches the throttle cables are over 45' long. Electronic control makes sense, less pressure on the threadle to work it and no problem routing the cables. They do lose a bit in sensitivity and finesse. On a bike with such short distances from handlebar to engine it doesn't seem worthwhile to me for the extra complication.

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