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post #41 of 60 (permalink) Old 01-11-2011, 04:09 PM
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Reviewing the gear ratios and final drive ratio for better fuel economy seems to be a way to go.

How much work to design and manufacture After Market final drive ring and pinion gears?

What other hardware would have to be included to allow the above to be possible for us to make the switch at home?



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Put me down for a 6th gear. I have a 2007 wing with 70,000 miles that I ride on the interstate daily. My other bike is an HD Soft tail with a 6 speed trany. I miss that 6th gear on the wing. When I ride the Harley on the interstate, I do end up down shifting more often when I'm in traffic, but so what? If I cared about shifting I’d drive the car with the automatic transmission that spends most of it’s time in my driveway.

Most of my riding is one up, so I don’t have an opinion on the cordless intercom.
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Believe it or not I like the current gearing, because when I twist the wick in any gear the Wing takes off right now!!!

I do not want a higher gear becausewhen I crack the throttle on the interstate and all I get is bogged down and then need to down shift.

Put most baggers against the wing on the highway side by side and crack the throttle. Even with the other bike down shifting the wing will already be gone.

I like to know that I can get out of harms way quickly.

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1I think everyone is missing the real outcome it won't be a six speed that will turn heads but and "Automatic"
now lets see where this goes
I'm right there with you!

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The cordless intercom system is not a bad idea, but there are only a couple ways to do it, and do it right. Bluetooth makes sense since it is a universally available technology for everything from phone calls to printing to industrial control, but what it lacks is a base frequency spectrum that is more immune to interference. Even the best BT devices I've had have occasional dropouts of a half second or so, etc.

We don't have to give up sound quality, but manufacturers of BT devices got started with telephone headsets, and have never really gotten the idea that other uses of BT require more amplifier power and high quality sound. The A2DP stereo profile in BT can do very high quality sound, but the batteries are so small, you can only drive super low power speakers.

WHen I started working on our BT products, one of which is a wire-replacement kit for Wings and Ventures, etc., we just spec'd out bigger batteries, and have continued to use the same speakers we've been using for 10 years with the Wing, and so far, it's been proven to be a solid performer. Downright surprising, actually.

So there's hope, Honda rumors are that the 2011 Wing has Bluetooth for a phone, but Im' not sure you'll be able to answer unless the speedo things you're sitting still...we'll have to see!

What I'd like to see on the new bikes, are audio things like FADER, BALANCE, microphone PTT for intercom, a MONO button so our one-eared friends can hear both channels in the good ear, and of course, a bluetooth hub of some sort to bring in more audio devices. Right now, folks like me and others have to fill in the blanks, and we'd much rather be focusing on our core products than fixing things Honda left out And one final thing: advanced voice processing to get the wind noise out of our conversations. Even our prototype BT headsets can do that, so it's not beyond Honda to build it into the bikes.


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The 1800 has always turned too many rpm at highway speeds. I'm always subconsciously wanting to shift one more time. The engine seems to have more than enough torque to allow another 500 rpm drop with one more gear. It would probably increase fuel mileage as well. Anybody else feel that way?

It also seems time to develop an intercom system that requires no cords.

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I can't believe the 1800 doesn't come with a 6speed tranny. Heck even Harley has that! That bike absolutely should have a 6speed. All the crap they stuff on those bikes and to ignore such a solid improvement doesn't make sense at all.
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Hi JimBo,
I was on the same band wagon you are now, so after looking at this issue from a lot of sides, came up with the following.

Looking at an earlier torque / HP curve, it was found the high point of torque is close to 3500-4500. If I remember correctly, the HP is something 4500-5000 or something. High way speed such as 70-80mph (actual GPS) is in the neighborhood of 3000-3500 rpm. So I felt that MOTHER is comfortable with these values in providing the most fuel economy at any given speed in 5th gear factoring the torque issue.

Wind resistance, I think is the main issue in upper speeds affecting fuel usage. (my issue, being a long tripper)

That's my 02s worth, now time for a real automotive engineer's take on this.


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I think Honda has probably been engineering a 6 speed transmission for years and haven't perfected it yet. Baker is the benchmark for the 6speed and for obvious reasons, Honda isn't going to have access to that hardware. Whatever 6speed Honda eventually puts on their Goldwing is naturally going to be compared to the Baker. They probably just want it to stand up to that scrutiny.
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StereoSteveo wrote:
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1I think everyone is missing the real outcome it won't be a six speed that will turn heads but and "Automatic"
now lets see where this goes
I'm right there with you!

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Seriously? You would want an automatic transmission on a motorcycle? Thats not riding. Its about man interacting with machine. Just get a Miata and get it over with.
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I think Honda has probably been engineering a 6 speed transmission for years and haven't perfected it yet. Baker is the benchmark for the 6speed and for obvious reasons, Honda isn't going to have access to that hardware. Whatever 6speed Honda eventually puts on their Goldwing is naturally going to be compared to the Baker. They probably just want it to stand up to that scrutiny.
Dummy here, what is the Baker and who uses it?
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