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If I had a place to do the work, I would not hesitate to do the work myself. I may have to take a lot of breaks because of my health but I do have the ability. But another alternitive is the body shop schools. I have one nearby & was told if I bring in the "tins" he would paint it for 200 bucks + the cost of materials.


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If I had a place to do the work, I would not hesitate to do the work myself. I may have to take a lot of breaks because of my health but I do have the ability. But another alternitive is the body shop schools. I have one nearby & was told if I bring in the "tins" he would paint it for 200 bucks + the cost of materials.
That's actually how mine got painted but in my case the bike was owned by the instructor of the program. I bought it and got it from him afterward. It raised his asking price a little but nothing like it would have been if I had it done for me. I figure it raised the price of the bike between $1000 and $1500. The work and paint used would have easily exceeded the cost of the bike itself.

I gave him $8500 for the bike and the trailer like you see it and well loaded with everything, including the CompuFire alt and batt.

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Yep That is one pretty wing and trailer Rudy.

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Angela, i understand what you are saying I have worked for both dealers and independet shops and my own shop. and in all three we did R&R paint .And as already mentioned It is extreamly expensive to do both under 1 roof and The insurance for paint and body shop is as well, in the dealers they most all have there own paint sorces , via factory all ready painted and some use local custom painters for the specialty stuff and in either case it gets expensive. Independent shops some will R&R only but that in its self can be expensive do to labor involved. when I had my shop We did R&R and Had a local painter do some or some the coustomer had some one else do it we did not make a profit on paint just the labor and everyone was happy.Ill bet you that if you scrath around and ask around there is somebody in your area that can do the R&R for you. Best of luck

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If I had a place to do the work, I would not hesitate to do the work myself. I may have to take a lot of breaks because of my health but I do have the ability. But another alternitive is the body shop schools. I have one nearby & was told if I bring in the "tins" he would paint it for 200 bucks + the cost of materials.
Yes indeed,we had one of those at the Vo-Tech school and they are very good.Plus helps everyone.That is a great option,maybe you will come across a place you can use because it sounds to me like you would enjoy doing as much as seeing the end results

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What a lovely gal you have there Rudy

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I run a shop, and want the tins, not the bike. Why?

I have room for six vehicles. If one of them is a bike, it needs to pay for its parking. It is displacing a car that I can make triple or quadruple the money on easily. It will take up that whole space and then some, when it is torn down.

Labor. The going rate for insurance on mechanical work is $42/hour...removal and installation.

GoldWings arent just a tank and a couple of fenders and side covers; there is serious labor time in tearing it down, in prepping and paint, and reassembly.

Bring in the "tins", I can work you into my schedule and give you a reasonable price. Bring the bike, bring the wallet.

Oh, and a friendly tip; red colors are running 2X-3X the cost of most any other color, same for 3 stage paints.

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I got an estimate from a custom bike painter to do all the parts on my Vulcan 750 for $450. That included the tank, both fenders, and both side covers, in Kawasaki Firecracker Red. This painter has a shop set up in a tin building out in the desert, and thereby bypasses a lot of the laws you would have to deal with in town. He is out in the San Tan Valley area (I believe there is a member here who lives out there. He is a professional, The parts are small, and do not have any scratches that go through the paint. I also did not want it clearcoated, because clearcoat scratches too easily, and it does no good to polish it, the paint is underneath. I'm not a believer in either clearcoat or metallic paint. It all looks great new, but doesn't last long. And you can't bring it back with polish. I have yet to get it done. Shortly afterward, I bought the Goldwing, and it has taken ALL my motorcycle time and money.

I have a house set up for working on bikes and cars, I have a 2 car garage, a 2 car driveway, a place to park 2 cars on the street, a large yard completely enclosed by an 8' block wall in the back, and a 6' block wall in the front, a full length back patio (covered) and a shed big enough to hold 6 average sized bikes and then some. I have replaced the carpet with commercial grade 1/8" thick vinyl composition tile in the living room, and have it set up as a place to work on bikes. When it is 115 degrees outside, I can work in comfort inside where it is 70 degrees. Problem is the GW won't fit through the door, I'm having to work on it outside, so it's only early mornings and late evenings.


Pretty much any bike shop (except a dealer) will remove the bodywork for you, then load it in a truck, and take it to an auto body shop like Maaco. You won't get high quality custom work, but you won't pay for it either. When it is finished, the shop will reinstall it. But it won't be cheap. I have had all the plastic off my LTD, it's time consuming but easy, I would do it for $50 for the right person, and that means doing it right, putting all the hardware in ziplock bags and labeling it. How much a body shop would charge you would depend on surface prep, remember body shops are not in the business of working on ABS plastic, and would not know how to fix it. Maaco won't even do fiberglass. I've had friends with Corvettes, and they had to take them to a Corvette specialist (read expensive) for bodywork.

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Scratches? Piece of cake, and whether it is base/clear or single stage, same risks.

If the scratch is completely through base/clear, same deal as single stage - time to repaint or touch up. Single stage has the advantage here, base/clear can be tough to touch up. Lightly sand the area until dull with 1500 grit, apply touch up paint, allow to completely dry, wet sand using 1500 grit wrapped around a piece of paint paddle until it is almost level, polish.

Same procedure for heavier scratches that do not go completely through the clear of base/clear, or completely through single stage.

Light scratches, wet sand with 1500 grit on a paint paddle, polish.

The real trick is getting a feel for exactly how much clear or single stage is on the surface. Go too far, time to paint...

Professionals can work wonders repairing such damage with a spot repair, definitely not a DIY kinda thing!

My preferred materials for scratch work; 3M 1000 and 1500 grit wet/dry, Super Assilex orange {1500grit}, Evercoat Triple Cut compound on a foam pad on a 7 inch buffer.


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Got around to finishing the Honda crotch rocket. JFYI, the cost of the paint {color coats only} was $170.

Add to that the repair labor, prep labor, filler primer and clear, any wet sanding and buffing if some trash gets in the clear...and some profit...that is why a paint job costs so much these days.

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