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post #171 of 184 (permalink) Old 10-30-2016, 01:07 AM
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Yeah, so now I am going to trace all the wiring to it and make sure there are no shorts or disconnects. I noted this time it came on when I hit a good bump on the highway and it jarred the front end. I am also going to check the kickstand connection (even though I have no kick or center stand) the wiring to harness needs to be intact or it will set it off also I believe. Hoping its not the ECM.
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DaveO430 replaced the ECM on my '02 and the problem disappeared forever.

oh, the MPG will improve quite a bit once the problem gets fixed.

I gained something like around 7 to 10 mpg.

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Yeah now that you mention that I noticed 70 miles and 3/8th of a tank seems excessive even for a trike on the highway. It will probably be the ECM but dang they are big $$$.
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Yeah now that you mention that I noticed 70 miles and 3/8th of a tank seems excessive even for a trike on the highway. It will probably be the ECM but dang they are big $$$.
keep in mind, that if you push the tach beyond about 2800-3000 rpm, fuel mileage is going to fall thru the bottom of the bucket. especially on a trike because you are pushing a lot of air...

with my prior Tulsa Tall windscreen, about 33 mpg was the best it would do at 60-65.
if pulling the trailer it fell to 30 and below real quick when the tach gets over 3000
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So after the dealer had the bike for 5 weeks and could not duplicate the FI light i picked it up last Saturday 29th. I didn't get 10 miles from the dealer and the FI light came back on. Drove it home another 45 miles and it started to stall every time I slowed down. Had to feather the throttle to avoid this. Oh and when I picked up the bike the service guy (not the one I had been dealing with) says how come you got just an oil change and didn't want the full 25k service? WHAT Austin said that was all that was due at 25k. NOT!!!

Called a different dealer on Monday and he let me talk to his top tech, (its 90 min away but will be going there from now on) ran through the whole story he immediately said ECM. Spoke to parts on back order til???

Long story short found new one online for $240 less than dealer wanted and did it and air filter myself this past Friday, bike runs great. Hope that is all the big $$$$ for a while.
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I know this is an old thread.... But..... I just had a horrific dealership experience. Last year. Won't go into details, but a service tech sabotaged my bike! Weird, huh? But they went out of business soon after. Willy World in Joliet, IL.
Here was the basis of my beef: I wasn't bringing in an old cycle for diagnostics, because I had a "problem". It was routine maintenance. I could do it, but did not have the time. Had the money, no time. I wasn't asking for much. Forks and fluids. I sourced the fork parts 2 weeks before, and delivered them.
I do all routine maintenance on many 20/15/10 yo cycles I own. Fluids, pads, chains, sprockets, bs...... Sometimes I am flush, but don't have a garage/area/tools. They took 3 weeks to turn around my cycle.
I would never take my cycle to a dealership if I had weird/diagnostic problems. Unless it was a new bike.

I am ok with The Dealership Stance. Think it is shortsighted, as GoldWing is the flagship. All GoldWings should be serviced. It is the Honda Way! With communication and agreements.

Have experience with Indy shops, when I was a newbie. Left off/did not tighten steering head bolts! But, you can't beat, cheap! I was fine with work/price, and managed my terror.

Just like a lot of American history- find a good shop, give them all your business, and talk, talk, talk. The Free Market is a beautiful thing.

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Here Here! I also try to fix it myself.... 99% with the help of this site. Thank you.
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I guess some dealers don't want to worry about sourcing parts for old bike, or maybe it is worrying about breaking loose frozen bolts and such. Could be plastic gets brittle over time and they worry about breaking body work.

I had a similar situation to Malcolm where I had the money and not the time/interest in doing several routine mx items. Took my 88 GL to an independent shop. Never asked for carb work, but the guy "rebuilt" the carbs. He did such a lousy job, the bike is barely rideable. And he failed to do other items I wanted. 8 months later and I STILL get angry just thinking about it.
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The ten year rule is due to the fact some if not most of all the repairs may cost more than the bike itself. Honda is afraid doing $1500 repair bill on a $1200 bike. Then the owner is not wanting to pay the bill.
I disagree totally. The dealers in my area won't even put tires on when you are willing to pay for the tires and expected labor to install up front. It is silly that many dealers will not even install tires on a bike over 10 years old even if the customer is willing to pay upfront.

It is not the fear of getting stuck with an expensive repair, many car dealers will work on 50 year old cars and they face the same issues at the motorcycle dealers. It is really a short-sightedness that keeps them blind to potentials.
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The ten year rule is due to the fact some if not most of all the repairs may cost more than the bike itself. Honda is afraid doing $1500 repair bill on a $1200 bike. Then the owner is not wanting to pay the bill.
A misconception here is that Honda is doing this, it is NOT Honda, it is the individual dealers, Honda does NOT own the dealerships.

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