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Any Regrets going 1800???

I'm a new Goldwing owner...3 months old with a 1994 SE. IMO, there's a smokin deal in southern Colorado for a 2008 GL1800 (only Premium Audio) with 12k miles for $14k asking.
I'm tempted, and believe it or not the wife says "LET'S GO GET IT!". We can't really afford it, but here's the question thrown out there.
Has anyone that went to an 1800 from being a 1500 owner regretted the move? What are the things you miss about the 1500?
I'm even tempted to just go get it and resell it up here in Denver, but I'm gun-shy that I will fall in love...and be in big debt.

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Hi Coloradowing and I should welcome you to the forums here.

Your question posed, takes the thread off topic here, so I will just give a brief answer. Maybe ask the same question in a new thread, or do a search and you will find a good few threads about that very subject.
There have been one or two who have regretted the move, but in general the majority have not. The couple of key, minor disadvantages are a slight reduction in luggage space and the seating position favours the passenger rather than the rider. The fairing gives slightly less wind protection, but all the above are small things. Hope that helps a little and do ask again in a dedicated thread.

In answer to Dave0430, I would agree, I would not want to see a change of the Wing to something smaller. Leaving the flagship model to progress as it is, I would only say that it might be nice if they introduced another model that caters for those who may want a modern equivalent of an old 1000 or 1100. Sports/tourers never match up to the consumate tourer that a Goldwing is.

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don't get me wrong I love the new Wings. But its not something I would want, I don't want a integrated circuit with wheels. give us a Wing around 1100CC fuel injected, lightweight fairing, trunk and bags with a nice dual seat.


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don't get me wrong I love the new Wings. But its not something I would want, I don't want a integrated circuit with wheels. give us a Wing around 1100CC fuel injected, lightweight fairing, trunk and bags with a nice dual seat.

It would be a nice addition to the line but it should not be called a goldwing, they should have reserved the name "silverwing" for that.

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It would be a nice addition to the line but it should not be called a goldwing, they should have reserved the name "silverwing" for that.
You are right Dave, whilst I have nothing against the Silverwing scooter that took the name after the mid sized tourer, when they did it, I thought it was wrong to label it such.

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In answer to Dave0430, I would agree, I would not want to see a change of the Wing to something smaller. Leaving the flagship model to progress as it is, I would only say that it might be nice if they introduced another model that caters for those who may want a modern equivalent of an old 1000 or 1100. Sports/tourers never match up to the consumate tourer that a Goldwing is.
The Goldwing is a luxury tourer and we become oxymoronic if we ask for a luxury tourer that doesn't allow us to tour in luxury. Part of the allure of a Wing is the "Land Barge" image, as challenging as the price and service can be. Cappucino anyone?

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It would be a nice addition to the line but it should not be called a goldwing, they should have reserved the name "silverwing" for that.
Yes l agree, have you seen what Honda dares call the silverwing these days?
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I don't see any reason why the Goldwing ever needed to get any bigger than a 1200/four, and I don't see why the bike itself ever needed to get physically bigger. The 1200 was a luxury land yacht back in it's day. The above is strictly my opinion.

Nope, not strictly your opinion.

I imagined a GL1200 evolving (think KLR650 and its essentially unchanged for decades, just technologically superior) into a, lighter, better gas mileaged, wind tunnel designed, synthetic running, fuel injected, electronic-computerized, adjustable windshield, factory LED bristling sex machine instead of fatter, slower, harder to work on, harder to turn, lower gas mileage, harder to just hop to the store, more expensive version of what our Asian brother engineers are otherwise outstanding at accomplishing.
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Let me tell you about the 1800.
Before l bought mine (2002 model) l was actually looking for an 1100, 1200 or 1500 depending on price/condition etc, the 1800 was way beyond my budget anyway.
In the mean time l researched everything l could find, the pros/cons for all of them, 1800 included, and to be honest my vision of the perfect bike was an optioned up 1500 SE, l didnt really like the bubbly sportier look of the 1800 or the age of the others.
Finally l tracked down a 1500 SE in great condition at a good price, l was just about ready to settle when the seller disappeared off the face of the planet, and at the same time an 1800 in perfect condition shows up for the same money, l originally only wanted to use the 1800 as leveridge to get a better price on the 1500, but l couldnt wait forever and this bike was a bargain (even if it wasnt exactly what l wanted) so l bought the 1800.
Since owning it l find it veeery heeeavy at low speeds ,its boxes dont hold as much stuff as the 1500 , the fans go the wrong way forcing me to watch the temp in traffic,its not quite as pretty as the 1500 from the front, and the oh mighty Honda tells lies about the "sportsbike like handling" in reality it handles like a pig (worse than my old GL 1000}
That being said the 1800 is awesome and l wouldnt swap it now for any other bike,for a start until you have ridden a six cylinder you havnt lived yet, there is something very special about them l cant explain you just have to know , the 1500 is a great bike but nothing like an 1800 in so many ways, even when you see them side by side the 1500 looks very dated, and with ABS and a fuel injected 120 HP six cyl motor its the king, there are so many little things l just cant list them all, but l can say Honda has done great with the evolution of the goldwing and l just hope they keep it up.
l know they are getting a little too big and clumsy and we all love the old 1100s and 1200s of the past, but there is nothing better than a big arsed sure footed bike that towers over everything else with its God like presence that demands respect even when parked.
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Remember when Cadillacs were HUGE cars? I do. But not any more. There used to be a lot of huge cars on the road, now they are all gone (albeit mostly replaced by huge trucks and SUVs) but luxury cars still exist, just smaller. The Goldwing has already gotten so big many cannot ride it without turning it into a trike. Honda needs to back off a bit. Remember the VTX1800 and the Vulcan 2000? They're gone now. They simple went to far, got to big and heavy, and they didn't sell.

First the Japanese companies were in a race to see who could build the fastest sport bike, then they got into a race to see who could build the biggest v-twin. Then Triumph came out with a 2300cc triple. 2300cc!! That's bigger than the engine in my car.

Enough is enough. It is time motorcycles returned to being motorcycles. IMO, these huge cruise ship sized bikes sort of defeat the purpose of riding a motorcycle in the first place. The 1800 is bigger than Honda's mid '70s Civic ( a great little car which I wish was still around)

Honda should at least realize that they have reached, and in many ways exceeded reasonable limits with the 1800, and not make it any bigger. Not only has the size become absurd, but the price has as well. $30K for a motorcycle? You can buy some fairly nice cars for HALF that

And I still wish Honda would build a no frills model for those who just want to ride, and need something big enough to carry a passenger and luggage. I for one cannot imagine listening to a stereo while riding, though I realize I seem to be in the minority there.

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