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I believe your onto it .
About the compressor and your air bags ,how do you plan to use them ? If you can set the pressure you want for a comfy ride and use the compressor for minor adjutments I think it may work as you will not be using a lot of volume/pump run time. If you plan to connect a ride leveling valve as a truck/car would have ,then I'd say you need a better compressor.

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Onewing: Don't plan to use a leveling valve. Unless i do put a better comp on. Plan to use the on board. Now i think I will use shop air at first then the on board air. The air bags are 6" dia and 9" tall. Going to finish up the swing arm Sat the mach up the swing arm. still need to finish installing the replacement tube in the rear end. Will mach up and get measurements prior to installing. I'll post a pic of bags Sat.
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Are you going to install some sort of automotive shock in the stock location? A near vertical shock like stock makes a pretty stiff ride. A left shock with no spring in stock location along with another left one(again no spring) in a modified right mount may be a good balance.
If you are custom fitting a set, try to get the shocks leaned forward at the top about 20ļ, to soften the bumps. Vertical shocks have most travel for shortest unit but also ride harsher

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Onewing: Don't plan to use a leveling valve. Unless i do put a better comp on. Plan to use the on board. Now i think I will use shop air at first then the on board air. The air bags are 6" dia and 9" tall. Going to finish up the swing arm Sat the mach up the swing arm. still need to finish installing the replacement tube in the rear end. Will mach up and get measurements prior to installing. I'll post a pic of bags Sat.
2 6" dia air bags will not hold the total volume of one tire on a typical goldwing.
Also if you run them at more than about 20-30psi they will get really harsh on compression. If you inflate these to more than 70% of their max height you will have very little travel left, again harsh ride. Hope you are putting them directly over and mounted to the axle so the swingarm stress is all but eliminated for support.
Compressor should handle it fine, with both bags filled to 20psi and 60% length they both only hold about the equivalent of .6 gallon, total. At 20psi the 2 bags will have a combined lift of over820 pounds, so unless you are towing your fifth wheel with this anything over about 12psi will be too much! I have no info on the air compressor specs on a wing, but if it have a rated output of over .1cfm it'll fill from totally flat to ride height in under a minute.
Don't know the measurement of a tire so calculating that would be sort of a guess.

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Sorry Later today Fester. As for the bags, I plan to mount over the rear end. and also going to check the bottom out height then the top out height and go some where in the middle. I'm trying to not go to far however I don't want to step backwards as well. I do plan to mount conventional shocks. I'm thinking like GM one forward and one backward. I love input, all you guys have been much help.
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the forward/backward was only done to squelch wheel hop and consequently give different shock rates because of leverage

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Swing arm with a fast coat of paint. good enough for a test fit. One of two air bags I want to use (6' across X 6.5 tall. The only problem with the Bag is having room on the right side. The center section is farther to the right than i planed. Also decided to start from scratch on the rear end. Picked up another one and i'm gonna start over with that. The housing is egg shaped from being hit.
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Test fit with one fender missing. Now to build a mate or try to locate two more fenders.
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Jammer, I recently helped a friend with his 1989 GL1500 trike conversion. We found parts/pieces for a California SideCar trike and bought them cheap. They included: 1 complete rear-end housing with cracked housing, a couple of CSC bodies for the GL1500's for a very, very good price. I didn't see or hear what body type your gonna use ..if any??

He bought a bike and we finished it earlier this year.

We used the stock swing-arm...with added bracing (we got cracks in it after only a 100 miles) 1/8" steel plate to stressed areas and other areas...just because. We also welded our single tube to the swing arm which then mounts to the "stock" studs on the mounting plates on the front of the axle tubes. This is much like a "stock" CSC arrangement. This unit also uses 3 shock units...2 stock Honda shocks and 1 stock Honda air shock. We mounted all these stock in near stock positions/angles on a 1" tubing (.125" wall thickness) welded to top of tube that connects to rear house axle tubes. Mounting tab/s location for the bottom position is important for good ride and ride height.

Your sub-frame tubing is a bit "overkill" as 1" tubing with .125" wall thickness is good & strong enough.

The CSC rear-end is a Mustang II with 3.00 ratio. But when we built my GL1200...we used a Ford Ranger truck rear (7.5 and changed gears to 3.00 from the stock 3.65) The rear we bought (with the bodies) had a welding flaw on the rear of the "pumpkin", so it was replaced and set outside in the weather...we replaced everything and re-welded the crack. Runs good...no leaks.

We re-drilled axle flanges to run Chevy 5-bolt for better selection of "mag wheels" and wheel off-set.

Mmm, there's other stuff...I got pics somewhere in "puter" if I can figger out how to send to ya of our build.

I got lots of popcorn, so I be watching!!

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Just saw your pic of the BIG body...Roadsmith????? Must weigh 125lbs!!!

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