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Didn't mean to infer that you did...
... I just recall having read a number of posts asking as they had heard 6 degrees was "twitchy".
Apologies - maybe I didn't read your post correctly... Actually, when we test road all those trikes, my favorite was a Road Smith with the 6 degree rake... Very enjoyable to ride and drive... When and if I go full trike conversion, a 6 degree rake kit will be on mine...
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No "Ap"s needed


My and"Wife Unit's" first trike ride was what seems long ago at CSC'S GRAND OPENING OPEN HOUSE here in Virginia. ... we tried out a couple but they did not have rake kits, aftwer a short ride down a near straight side road that was not smooth, I swore to myself "NO trikes" as they steered very heavy, even on a straight road just holding a steady line fighting the crown.


THEN .... forward to 2004, was offered our 1997 GL1500SE / Lehman GTL at a ritous asking price as he was hot to trot to buy something else(A new $30,000 Illusion Blue GL1800 / Champion SA trike dressed with Kuryakin Accy. as best as I can recall), I figured on my wife riding it most ... but after a week, gave up on that idea. It steered very heavy, . It was work to ride, not fun at all.

I even thought of reselling it

Did some research, asked around, then on a ride stop with a group, was offered a short ride on a buddies' CSC with new rake kit, he was proud of it. I did a big figure 8 in the parking lot / overlook on BRP ....
... and I could not in good conscience, have him ride our Lehman to the next stop as I was sold.


Called a dealer / good buddy that evening to start ball rolling on my order of my own 6 degree EZSteer .... and very soon I was installing it. It came with tube extensions & bearings.


It has proved to be worth every penny in enjoyment since.

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everyone has givin some good info. I am leaning toward the 6 degree. I have the 4 degree now and my wheel base is 75.5. I'm looking to find out what wheel base and with what rake others have and the results. Comparison with what they have driving to there own.
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Wheelbase will not change rake nor will it affect trail.

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Agree. however I questioned the seller if the tree and his response was (depends on your wheel base)

reply :If your wheelbase is the same as a motortrike.then it will be just a 4 deg.

If you do mostly curves all day or weak shoulders etc...then you could do a 6 dag.

A 6 deg kit will be very sensitive.
A 4deg kit is very universal to help with the steering.

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I currently ride a 2009 with a Tow Pack conversion and I added a Traxxion 4.5 degree billet triple tree (rake kit)... It's still a tad heavy on some maneuvers but it sure has lightened the steering on most other turns... I still ride on 2 wheels sometimes with the rake kit installed and steering can be a little twitchy under certain circumstances, so I wouldn't want any more rake on my existing rig with 2 wheels as I would probably end up with negative trail...

If I ever do go full trike. which I probably will in another year or two, I'll probably swap out to the 6 degree as it will be just like power steering... Might just see if I can buy a 2009 or 2010 trike and seel my bike instead of doing a conversion - could be more economical if I can run across the right deal...
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My thinking, 6 degree is great in the tight stuff ...
... and if you stay awake, will work on the long straight areas.


But then 4.5 degrees will still work in reducing effort.


I just speak of experience gleaned over the last dozen years with a 6. It coukl be seen as overly sensitive by some riders I suppose, but then a lot of older drivers took awhile to coming around to power steering in the family car.
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I was trained by Lehman years ago. At that time they recommended the 6 because it was more stable. They suggested it felt like 'power steering'.
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got the 4.5 now so I guess it will be the 6 then. thanks everybody. safe travels and ENJOY. summer is here.
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got the 4.5 now so I guess it will be the 6 then. thanks everybody. safe travels and ENJOY. summer is here.

4.5 is better than none.
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