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Question CSC Escapade Air Shocks Leak?

Hi, I have a 2004 CSC Escapade trailer which I purchased new back in 2004. I have a slow air leak somewhere and can't find it in the oem Progressive air shock lines. I tightened the lines and checked all the fittings and valve stem with soap & water....... nothing. I'm hoping that it's not a shock seal issue, but it's starting to look that way. If its the Progressive shocks, I heard that they are around $400.00 for a pair new......... Yikes! Maybe they can be rebuilt, if not I may have to look for an alternative. Have you experienced this problem? If so, did you find a fix? Any help and/or thoughts would be most appreciated. Thanks, Ray
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Thanks for the reply....... I'm going to contact them this week. I'll report back once I have a definitive answer. Thanks again, Ray
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Hi, I have a 2004 CSC Escapade trailer which I purchased new back in 2004. I have a slow air leak somewhere and can't find it in the oem Progressive air shock lines. I tightened the lines and checked all the fittings and valve stem with soap & water....... nothing. I'm hoping that it's not a shock seal issue, but it's starting to look that way. If its the Progressive shocks, I heard that they are around $400.00 for a pair new......... Yikes! Maybe they can be rebuilt, if not I may have to look for an alternative. Have you experienced this problem? If so, did you find a fix? Any help and/or thoughts would be most appreciated. Thanks, Ray
If it is Progressive,they are easy to reSeal,the seals are readily available,
They are most likely 416 and hereís the part number.oops sorry bout the sideways pix
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If it is Progressive,they are easy to reSeal,the seals are readily available,
They are most likely 416 and hereís the part number.oops sorry bout the sideways pix
Thanks for the help! I'm going to contact Progressive this week. I will ask about the seals along with how to tell what specific air shock it is. I'm assuming that the air shock is part #416 as you mentioned. I'm not exactly sure how to check if it's the shock seals or not. Removal shouldn't be too big of a problem but, getting air to them while performing an under water test would be a challenge due to the lack of a normal valve stem. Do you know if they are fairly easy to rebuild yourself? Are special tools needed? Also, if you have any tips for rebuilding, removal, etc. I would sincerely appreciate it. I.M.O. it would also be a good idea to change out all the lines, fittings, etc. as well. Thank you again for taking the time in forwarding this information along with the pic's. Ray
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Thanks for the help! I'm going to contact Progressive this week. I will ask about the seals along with how to tell what specific air shock it is. I'm assuming that the air shock is part #416 as you mentioned. I'm not exactly sure how to check if it's the shock seals or not. Removal shouldn't be too big of a problem but, getting air to them while performing an under water test would be a challenge due to the lack of a normal valve stem. Do you know if they are fairly easy to rebuild yourself? Are special tools needed? Also, if you have any tips for rebuilding, removal, etc. I would sincerely appreciate it. I.M.O. it would also be a good idea to change out all the lines, fittings, etc. as well. Thank you again for taking the time in forwarding this information along with the pic's. Ray
Itís fairly simple,get the rubber cover off and thereís a ring holding the seal in,remove it and blow the seal out with air,it takes a lot of air and have it pointed into a bucket cause it comes out with a bang,I used a piece of pvc to drive the new seal back in,the problem is the oil is gone and thatís what keeps the air in,I was skeptical but CWN assured it would be fine.youtube has good instructions,donít count on Progressive to help,just google that part number,I think Amazon has them,I got mine out of Canada.


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Itís fairly simple,get the rubber cover off and thereís a ring holding the seal in,remove it and blow the seal out with air,it takes a lot of air and have it pointed into a bucket cause it comes out with a bang,I used a piece of pvc to drive the new seal back in,the problem is the oil is gone and thatís what keeps the air in,I was skeptical but CWN assured it would be fine.youtube has good instructions,donít count on Progressive to help,just google that part number,I think Amazon has them,I got mine out of Canada.
https://www.amazon.com/Progressive-S.../dp/B0081XZDHS
Thanks for the help...... I'm not sure if I want to tackle the job or not. I did receive an email back last night from Progressive in which I asked them the following questions;

1) How can I tell what the actual air shock part number is?

2) Does Progressive offer any instructions for rebuilding?

3) Do you carry the air lines, connectors, etc.?



Response from Progressive;

Hi Ray,

We offer a rebuild kit for 26.00 but we are out right now. You can do it yourself. If your shocks are out of the year warranty, we do not rebuild them any longer. For the airlines, we sell them, but there is about a month lead time right now.
If there is not a sticker on the shock with the part #, you will have to call CSC. I need the part # of the shock to give you the connectors, and tubing you need.
 I have attached the instructions.
We do not have fitment for trailers, we sell CSC a private label shock, so give them the model of trailer to see if they offer it.



I'm a little concerned about part availability and/or shock replacement. I.M.O. it's a little odd to have everything on back order. I'm going to contact CSC for a response. Hopefully there is another shock out there for us CSC owner's for an alternative. If there is, I haven't heard of it. Personally, I wouldn't mind an adjustable shock without air.
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The following is an email I received today from CSC. "Now I'm really concerned"

Raymond,
We do not rebuild shocks nor do we have any rebuild kits. Progressive use to rebuild them but no longer. Progressive, two weeks ago told us they are no longer building our shocks. We do not have an alternative yet. We do have an airline kit that sells for $33.00 plus shipping.
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I think those airline kits have been about $33 for a long time now.


This thread did get me to order a seal kit 76-5041 (off ebay) for a pair of 416s & also good for GL1100 / Gl1200 shocks as both mine have Progressive 416s out back. All of them are 20 years old and no issues.


They came today, https://www.ebay.com/itm/HONDA-GL110...53.m2749.l2649

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