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If you look at 1970s dollars and compare to today's dollars you'll discover that it's actually cheaper to fill your Wing now than back in the 1970s.

I think gas prices should go up, not down. Maybe it will discourage people from buying and driving those ridiculous SUVs and trucks.
 

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94p a litre at the moment, that's over £5.00 per gallon. But i am not complaining, cuz the bloody van runs on deisel and that is more per litre!!!:whip:

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Why not run your van on vegetable fat? ... They call it biodiesel here.
 

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Well, I know I didn't vote for GW Bush. Hmmmmm, let's see.... President is an oil man. Vice President is an oil man.........

But this great site isn't and shouldn't be about politics so I better stop there.
Yep, and he just signed an energy bill that increased subsidies for the oil industry - on top of $1000 subsidies that each taxpayer already pays to big oil every year. And the oil industry is now making record profits! Are people not seeing this?

As an American taxpayer why am I helping the a*****e with the SUV down the street fill his gas tank to the tune of $1000 a year? Maybe it's just me, but I think there's something wrong with that. Especially at a time when global warming is such a big threat and affordable gas is due to run out in 30 years or so.
 

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Marco, some of us have to drive big pickups and the more gas cost the more the cost of goods will go up. The big rigs are suffering as well and when they deliver a load of groceries it's going to cost more. So...it doesn't matter if you drive a Humvee or a Honda 50 it's still going to affect everyone.:action:


And don't blame the current administration. Like someone else said, Blame OPEC if you have to blame anyone.
You're not seeing the big picture... I don't see any reasonfor someoneto drive a big pickup other than having to use it for his/her business to haul big loads. If you need it to haul toys - well... you shouldn't be complaining when you have to put $75 or $100 in the tank. Same for your gas-hungry boat. But I certainly don't want to subsidize your toys!

Did you know that for every gallon of gas that you burn you release about 25 pounds of carbon dioxide into the atmosphere? America only holds 5% of the world's population, but America releases 25% of the world's CO2. Something to think about in terms of global warming.

Why not use rail to transport durable goods instead of all those damn trucks. It's many times cheaper in terms of fuel used. Yes, perishable goods will still have to be transported by truck in most cases.

You say don't blame the current administration.Blame OPEC? Let's see... Who's in bed with the Saudis and has been for the last 20-30 years? Oh, I know... the Bush family!!! Who just signed the pork-barrel energy bill with oil giveaways? - Oh, I know... Bush! Who's making the record profits and also benefiting from the oil subsidies?- Oh, I know... Bush's cronies in the oil industry!

"It took the world 125 years to use the first trillion barrels of oil... it will only take 30 years to use the last trillion." This is not a quote from some environmental group - this is a quote from the Chevron oil company last month.

Oil prices need to go up to encourage people to seek other ways of transporting goods, seek efficient personal transportation, and for generating energy. Americans won't do it from the kindness of their hearts - it has to affect the pocketbook. Oil prices in the US are artificially low because of oil subsidies... why not stop the subsidies and charge the real price of oil? Don't you think people would be encouraged to conserve if they had to pay the real price at the pump? If I ride a bicycle to work and grow my own vegetables why should I have to pay for your SUV gas bill and subsidize the trucking industry? Pay as you go is what I say.

You say the price of food will go up with higher gas prices. Initially maybe so (but not much... when you figure price per pound it's not much), but when markets start using rail instead of trucks for non-perishable or semi-perishable food the prices should actually go down. Even if fuel prices were 4 times what they are now rail would still be cheaper than what it costs to transport by truck now. Yeah, maybe you'll have to pay more for produce from California or Florida, but maybe, just maybe it will give aa competative edgeto the small farmer in your area? Local produce is fresher, tastes better, and is better for you than the stuff that traveled from CA or FL or Chile or Argentina or Mexico.
 

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Man, leave it to Liberal Oregon to come up with this tripe. If you will read my post, I only said that it's getting a little expensive. It was just a comment on the changing world. I'm not crying as Paul said, I'm only stating the damned obvious. How do you figure you're subsidizing me? I pay my own way. It's a sad state of affairs when you can't even post a simple comment on here without someone going political, or worse.

Oh, and get over it. The election is over. And...my pickup gets 10 MPG. How do you like that?
You know I'm right... the more we ignore it the worse it will get.
 

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Man, leave it to Liberal Oregon to come up with this tripe. If you will read my post, I only said that it's getting a little expensive. It was just a comment on the changing world. I'm not crying as Paul said, I'm only stating the damned obvious. How do you figure you're subsidizing me? I pay my own way. It's a sad state of affairs when you can't even post a simple comment on here without someone going political, or worse.

Oh, and get over it. The election is over. And...my pickup gets 10 MPG. How do you like that?
Just to let you know... back when I was in the service (spent 21 years in the Air Force) I was a Republican.

Then I opened my eyes.
 

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I used my SUV to pull out a tree stump yesterday:goofygrin::goofygrin::goofygrin::goofygrin::goofygrin::goofygrin:
I guess you deserve a medal. Let's promote him to "Official Stump-Puller." :goofygrin:
 

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wingdawg101 wrote:
Axelwik,

Your Redundant ramblings are full of misinformation and not fact!

You figure by presenting them aggressively that they carry Merritt but average intelligence can see through the "Smoke Screen"!

Sorry not buying it!

But I'm going for a ride shortly because I can't change the coarse of the world but i can enjoy todays ride!:goofygrin::clapper:
No smokescreens, just the truth. Anyway... let's get off the subject here. Why don't you PM me with your so-called "facts."
 

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wingdawg101 wrote:
You're presenting Hearsay as fact, not me!
PM me, I'd like to hear what you say is hearsay.
 
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