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Yep, went by that one, too. Beginning to wonder why the hell I came here.
 

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I was going to say something about them making the rest of us look bad,but I think it's too late for that. There's just too many out there.
 

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Well I hope everyone is ok! I am reading with early morning eyes at this point but I didn't see if anyone got fatally injured. what the heck was the road captain watching?

See running straight pipes ruins your eyesight!! thats what Pa always said!
 

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Wow, another group crash. Sure don't like to see this happening. Seems we hear more of these occurring.



Something to be said about small groups or solo riding, but the fact of the matter is to ride safe and that means allowing a safe zone to get out of trouble. Most difficult to doin a long line of MC traffic.



I have sensed that "attention to traffic detail" is beingpossibly ignored. Distances between bikes are too close and riders are not "planning ahead" two to four or more bikes ahead, anticipating road conditions. The lazy rider is the one that just follows the bike in front and lets him signal the issue.



We need to constantly look forroadchange conditions and other issues way ahead of our position. Constant training is a must on the road. Every little mistake we make is a warning of what could happen.



Donald Masters is alone out there some where, lostin ID. He should be an inspiration for the rest of us.leaving a travel plan with family and friends at the start and end of the trip with an occasional check in is the right thing to do. If there is an issue, two groups or more will about where you are at all times.



Sorry this is long, safety is all of our concern.

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I prefer small numbers and even solo, as many of us here also ride in groups, be it friends, PGR, or any others, attention within all riders is a must, not just the captains. I feel sorry for the ones hurt and/or damaged bikes, I feel their hurt.:( But something tells me it could have been avoided. :cool:
 

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I have seen smaller groups, from the same club before. They are up and past you, before you know it. The loud pipes really give you a jolt, when you don't expect it. They ride close together and side by side, typically. Again, this was on the verge of rush hour. I just don't understand the mentality.
 

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IMO, the days of riding 'in groups' are over. There is just too much traffic - and bad drivers - too do this. The 'clubs' have always done this, maybe now they'll re-think this. I'm starting to like the idea of a 'meet point'. That is, if I rode with anyone.
 

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I am sort of the opinion that two's company and three's a crowd.
I tend to agree... I like two (Da Boss and I) 3 I don't mind... any more than that and I get a bit nervous....

Just 1 oppy there could cause alot of pain/damage...
 

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The group is called brother speed.To be a member you must ride an American made motorcycle...My wing was made in America,I wonder if...........Naaa..Anyway they have their own website.I hope they are all OK....
 

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The group is called brother speed.To be a member you must ride an American made motorcycle...My wing was made in America,I wonder if...........Naaa..Anyway they have their own website.I hope they are all OK....
http://www.brotherspeedmcoregon.com
 

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SERRASJ does just fine with up to 8 riders but we all ride independent of each other and spread way out. There are no assigned captains or tail gunners. Just so long as the front guy and tail person both have CBs.

We stick everyone else without one in the pack.

Everyone comes and goes as they please but he 'herd' works well.

I rode with GWRRA and in a large mixed group and did not feel comfortable, safe or free at all.
More like 5 o'clock traffic in Atlanta with all bikes to me.

You are most free alone and safest on the lonely stretches with a partner or two.

Beyond that...

The more riders you have in a group, the less scenery you are going to see.
 

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On the Brother Speed website, it's self-described as "a club that is serious about brotherhood, respect, riding fast and building Choppers



Nuf said.... loud pipes just cover up poor riding skills.... Most prob did not even have front brakes that worked I bet.... love to see all of their bikes run thru a serious safety check!!!
 

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It is sad to hear the news a fellow biker, whether it is a Hardley rider or not, was injured in a crash. Even when riding in "packs/groups" everyone is responsible for their own safety. It is no different than driving in rush hour traffic. You don't trust the cager in front of you asfor when your suppose to brake. You SHOULD be looking ahead of that vehicle. YOU must maintain a safe following distance, that is YOUR responsibility to be safe. I have ridden with groups that like to scrape the foot pegs and groups that are out for a leisurely Sunday ride. NEVER rely the bike ahead of you to point the dangers. They might be sightseeing and not see thedeer runningout in front of them. They old saying I always hear around here is "Ride like no one see you or knows your there".
 

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I ride my ride even in groups. If the group is faster then my ride then I fall back; the crew I ride with would slow down as well. If the group is slower then my normal riding I will slow to the group ride. But and I mean BIG "BUT" I am always watching for problems and not relying on the leaders to spot them. The only thing I find that gives me the jitters in a group ride is when the bike next in line behind me gets into my blind spot, mirror doesn't cover and helmet blocks my vision.
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I ride with GWRRA groups pretty regularly. We always divide a group the size of that one into several small groups, no more than five or six together, and about half a mile between groups.

Groups of three to six are more likely to be seen than a single bike.



I've ridden on a few PGR missions where there may be a hundred or more bikes, and there's no telling who's likely to show up. It's apparent that some have no concept of riding a stager, and keeping a uniform two second space behind the rider ahead, or keeping a tight formation. That makes me nervous.
 

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It's not the group riding that 's the problem, it's the idiots on the bikes. Yes, I'm speaking to all of them. Have you ever got into a large group of riders and said "hey, let's ride in a line one after another and follow each other real close. That waywe can all crash together"? Silly them. Get some space man. It's not that tough. I wonder, do those fellas follow semi trucks that close as well? Holy cow. :shock:
 

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......Nuf said.... loud pipes just cover up poor riding skills.... Most prob did not even have front brakes that worked I bet.... love to see all of their bikes run thru a serious safety check!!!
:doh: Not everything, in life, revolves around 'loud pipes'.

I think you'd loose that bet. You're making a lot of, emotionally driven(?), judgments here, that aren't based on anything real. This is how lynch mobs get started.
 
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