[mrclean]

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Larry Great article, actually I did read the article earlier......make a long story short....seems like the problem is the rectifier.......which a new one should be arriving Monday or Tuesday.......



Regarding the starter....since you are the expert.......I learned something......



1 my old starter was burned over heated way too much



2 when I went to install the new starter.....the new gear that rests on the chain was just a tad too big and no mater what I did the new starter would not fit.....no way.



3 solution....use the old gear from the origional starter and the new starter slid right into place on the first attempt.



Since you are the guru for the starters article.....please ad this imp piece of info to your article however you think is best.........



I really do not know much about forums and most certianly lack forum know how. Please continue to do what you do so well....thanks

 

[GSMacLean]

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mrclean wrote:

2 when I went to install the new starter.....the new gear that rests on the chain was just a tad too big and no mater what I did the new starter would not fit.....no way.

3 solution....use the old gear from the origional starter and the new starter slid right into place on the first attempt.

That's not the first time I've heard of this happening to someone, and each time they arrived at the same solution as you.

 

[Jeenus]

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I have an 84 Aspencade that I need to replace the stater. My Clymer manual say's I need to remove the engine to replace the starter. I see in your photo's you didnt. Is the 83 different than the 84? Can I do this with out engine removal and what steps should I take to not lose the chain and gear?

Thank you in advance for any replies,
John

 

[Mr Magic Fingers]

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Hi,

Welcome to the forums!!!

You ABSOLUTLY do not need to remove the engine to get at the starter.

Yes, your 84 is different than the 83 being that you have a 1200. The starter motor is just a little different to work on but not enough to note. Just follow (common sense) what I have out laid here and you should be fine.

As far as getting it out and issues with the chain and /or the sprocket - there are non that I know of. I have had many of these of and on and off before without issue. That being said, they have been all on 1100's. I don't know of anyone that has lost the sprocket. A magnet and a string would retrieve it though I would suspect.

I have only removed one and re-installed it on a 1200. Most people have just brought me their 1200 starter motors to fix. They have done the grunt work. Just use common sense and be patient and learn to wiggle the starter around. It comes straight back.



Tim.

 

[Jeenus]

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Tim thank you and Awesome, great write up. I was getting ready to pull the engine. I just purchased the bike. I went to run to the store and the stater would not stop. I had to pull the ground cable. I was to late and the starter burned up. Ever hear of this happening?
Again Thank you
John

 

[Mr Magic Fingers]

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Jeenus,

First... thanks for the compliment about this article. I enjoyed writing it and it looks like many people have benefited from it which was its intention.

So... it would seem that you have two issues here:

1) A sticky solenoid or starter relay (people use the term interchangeably here).

2) You need to replace your starter.



Your answers to those two questions are:

1) Get rid of the solenoid ASAP. Don't use it again. It's located right by your battery to the right. If you can't source one from Honda then one for a Ford Truck available from Napa or Car Quest will work fine and have been used quite successfully around the forum. I use a modified one myself. QUALITY rewiring will be needed as you will have to add some fuses. Not complicated but quality work needed.

2) New Started Needed! Stay away from anything used. Quality, USA made starters are available under $100.00 delivered. Stay away from the imports and the like on E-bay. Used ones have problems and you just end up having to overhaul them and spending more money on something you just got. BUY NEW! I have used several from this company....

www.dbelectrical.com

Specifically you want this starter for your bike...

http://www.dbelectrical.com/p-6641-new-honda-gl-1100-gold-wing-starter-gl1100-80-81-82-83-goldwing.aspx

Good Luck and let us know how things went in the tech forum when you done!



Tim.

 

[Jeenus]

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1) Get rid of the solenoid ASAP. Don't use it again. It's located right by your battery to the right. If you can't source one from Honda then one for a Ford Truck available from Napa or Car Quest will work fine and have been used quite successfully around the forum. I use a modified one myself. QUALITY rewiring will be needed as you will have to add some fuses. Not complicated but quality work needed.

Any write ups on this? I need some help here.

 

[rowade]

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Thankyou so much Mr Magic fingers the time you spent on these pictures will help so many riders. Wade

 

[Bozack0]

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About 30 min ago, I just finished installing a new starter, which I purchased from DB Electric for $85. My 83 Aspencade has chrome accents surrounding the headers. It looks nice, but the bottom starter screw is mounted directly behind the header, and it's impossible to reach with a conventional socket setup.

Anyway, two things I learned:
1. Use a swivel socket adapter (with extension) to reach and remove bottom bolt.
2. Manually push the rubber seal (on starter) towards the front of the bike in order to slide the spline in. The rubber seal will re-seat properly, once the starter is seated properly.

No need to remove gear shifter or exhaust headers to remove or reinstall starter.

Bike started up on the first try. BTW, initally I thought it was my solenoid relay, so I bought a new one. It was actually the starter. Anyway, I still have my old relay, that works fine, if anyone is interested in having it at no cost; it's yours. Just pay for the shipping which should be under $5. I paid $20 for my new one.

 

[karitoki]

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Awesome! :thumbsup:

 

[Mr Magic Fingers]

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Thank You!



Welcome aboard! You will find a world of good information here for any issues you may encounter and this Wing family is second to none!



Tim

 

[CrystalPistol]

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