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first off i am new to this site and want let everyone know that i love the site and want to thank the owner for creating it.but anyway to the problem,i bought a 84 goldwing aspencade with 39000 miles on it about a month ago.it set for three years in a garage and after a few cusswords and alot of time and money it is up and running but now the problems arise.i put a new battery in it when i bought it and it turned over great but wouldnt run due to setting well now it runs but when it gets hot it sounds like it has a dead battery.i can ride it all day as long as i dont shut it down without a glitch.at first it was sounding like a dead battery when it got hot but now it has gone to the point were i have to play with the starter switch to get it to fire up cold or hot i hear something clicking when i start it but i have to fight with it to get it to crank i am new to the goldwing world but have suspisions either the starter or solinoid are giving up any help would be greatly appreciated and if i posted this wrong i do apologise
 

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The starter dragging when hot is not unusual on this bike. You may be able to get away with just pulling the starter, taking it apart and cleaning it, but as long as you're taking it apart you might as well replace the brushes and check the bushings.
 

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Welcome to the forum! You can buy brush kits for around &35. you can buy a brand new starter for $130 +/- out of California. Do not buy the cheaper Chinese starters because they do not last!!

All your main wiring must be clean & tight. Goldwings depend on perfect connections.

The starter comes out fairly easly. the book states that you remove the engine:shock:, But you can pull your shifter & usually wiggle it out! I dropped my exhaust out of the way because my hands are huge!

With a full battery, you should not drop below 10 volts at the starter during cranking. If you do, your starter is pulling too much power!

Keep us posted!!!!
 

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Yep my 84 Aspy did the same thing. Started ok when cold but gave symptoms of a dead battery when hot.It wont get better so.....Remove the starter and strip it and give it a good clean. Its an easy job. Remove the gear shift lever. left side exhaust headers and just to make it easier I removed an exhaust stud as well. wiggle it andand the starterwill come out. While your in there replace the brushes, mine didnt look worn but while its in bits you may as well.



BUT... if you do need a new starter remember a 1984 1200 wing had a unique starter motor fitted that year, and no other 1200 starter will fit. if you cant find a 84 starter get yours refurbed.
 

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Hey Drewspires,

First of all welcome to the forum. This is a great place for people that need help. All you need to do is ask.

In answer to your question, a good cleaning of your starter sounds like a possible fix. I had the same types of problems and resolved it completely in an hour or so. Please check out this link.



http://www.goldwingfacts.com/forums/forum9/73447.html



Although I see that your have a 1200, I don’t think the 1100s are all that different with the exception on how to get at it to remove and reinstall it. I think they are really close to being the same starter.

Just take your time, read the article through and familiarize yourself with the procedure before you start so you’re aware of the “gotcha” areas. It really is quite easy. Most times the brushes don’t need to be replaced, just measure them up and check their length.

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Hi Drewspires and welcome,



Your starter is showing all the signs of exactly what was going on with mine, from the information I gathered on the forum, particularly a posting by Mr Magic Fingers, great guide, I know he describes the starter on a GL1100 but the GL1200 is very similar, and a new found friend in Curlytops, I got through the work with the minimum of fuss.



I have a 1984 GL1200 Aspencade, for me it was removal of the starter with the engine in the bike, and on the centre stand, removed the lower left fairing, the left engine bars, the gear shift, left running board, the inside left exhaust flangenuts and the inner most left exhaust stud, this must come off, the starter will not come away from the bike without this stud removed, disconnected the battery, the lead from the starter, important, use a slimline 10mm openend wrench on the bottom nut of the post when disconnecting the lead from the starter, use it as torque against the top nut removal for if the post starts to turn and severe the connection inside the starter you will have real problems, two 8mm bolts secure the starter, remove these and with a bit a "wiggleing" and outward push the starter will come out of the housing, pull the rear of the starter into the space made by the removal of the exhaust stud and she will clear the housing and out she will come.



I followed Mr Magic Fingers posting to the letter, new brushes and a total clean up of all parts, re-packed the planatery gears with grease etc, re-built the starter, bench tested and re-fitted by reversal, "A1" the bike starts on the button first time, hot or cold, what a difference, hope this helps, it sounds a daunting task but it really is easy going and of course there is the satisfaction of getting the job done yourself.
 

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ok guys thanks for all the post so far i am a native to ga and live there most times but me and the bike hav made our way to daytona beach for a couple of months for vacation so i have just gotten around to getting back here to check for answers but i plan on starting the teardown tonight and i will let everyone know how it goes
 

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oh if we have any riders on here from the area i do not know many ppl and if things go well and the bike works out i will be looking to meet ppl to ride with.my email is [email protected] feel free to send me a message if you ride near daytona alot
 

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I rebuilt my starter when I replaced my water pump a few months ago. It still drags slightly when hot but doesn't fail to start. As someone said, it's common for this year bike. The other thing that happens from time to time is the starter clutch not engaging. It usually happens in cold weather. I just try to park where the sun will hit the left side of the bike then no worries. You can also put the bike in first, rock back and forth a couple of times and it will hook up fine.
Good luck with whatever you do.
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well guys i have decided tht considering my lack in mechanical skills and money to bring this bike to what i want her to be and her size compared to mine i have to let her have a new home or send her out in parts to attempt to recoup what i have spent.
 

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well guys i wanted to thank everyone for their help and advice but i attempted to remove the starter today and i suffer from a very severeheart failure which has caused me several heart attacks in the past few years and after i had several severe attacks in the process of working at the bike i feel i have a project that i cannot handle but as much as i love the thought of a goldwing i hate to see her put to waste so i put her up for sale before i decide to cpart her out.hopefully i can get my money back from her and she will find a good home were she can get the love and attention she deserves.mabe one day i will be able to find a goldwing that i can afford and trust enough to take cross country which is my dream,but til then i will keep you guys posted and i thank you all again and i will continue to read the post if yall dont have any offense to a short term goldwing owner hanging out lol and thanks again guys for everything
 

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Hey Drewspires,

Let me be the first to say that you will always be welcome here. It’s not the ride so much as it is the spirit of the ride. I have the same dream as you. I want to go from one end of this continent to the other and zig zag up and down and go all around!! There are many parts of Canada and the US that I want to visit. We are all so fortunate here in North America to have the beautiful countries that we do. There really is no other place on earth like ours… vast, open and safe.

Keep your dreams alive and work toward them. Sell this one and get a reliable bike, plan it out with someone that hads done it before, take a deep breath and then just do it!

“You always miss 100% of the shots you don’t take”.

My thoughts got out to you, your health and your dreams. Take care.

Do it.

Tim
 

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ok guys i need some help and advice here.i put my bike on craigslist in daytona and all i get is scammers or ppl wanting a 10000 dollar bike for 1800 so i am considering just trashing it for parts as much as i hate to do it considiering the fact that i have so much money tied up in it and just want some advice on the best way to try to get some of my money out of it . if you guys have any ideas please let me know i have almost three thoudand dollars tied up in it already and just dont have the money to do it the way it should be done.it is an 84 aspencade and it does run good but the money is running out and i am losing at every turn so if you guys have any ideas please let me know.or if anyone needs a complete bike for parts or to restore let me know and make me an offer i am just tired of wanna be mechanics at overrated prices that hasnt gotten me anywhere with the bike and more money out of my pocket i could have bought a mint 84 for what i have in this one thanks guys again
 

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ok guys i need some help and advice here.i put my bike on craigslist in daytona and all i get is scammers or ppl wanting a 10000 dollar bike for 1800 so i am considering just trashing it for parts as much as i hate to do it considiering the fact that i have so much money tied up in it and just want some advice on the best way to try to get some of my money out of it . if you guys have any ideas please let me know i have almost three thoudand dollars tied up in it already and just dont have the money to do it the way it should be done.it is an 84 aspencade and it does run good but the money is running out and i am losing at every turn so if you guys have any ideas please let me know.or if anyone needs a complete bike for parts or to restore let me know and make me an offer i am just tired of wanna be mechanics at overrated prices that hasnt gotten me anywhere with the bike and more money out of my pocket i could have bought a mint 84 for what i have in this one thanks guys again
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too bad your not here in montreal drewspires i would of done the job for a few tim horton coffees,i think if thats the only thing left to fix on your goldwing you should try and keep it and enjoy the ride fro a few years.
1200 are very good bikes and dont need a lot to enjoy it.
 

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i do appreciate it guys i am looking for a real goldwing mechanic in my area that isnt out for the gold part of my pocket book or trying to get rich if i can find one i believe that she will come to life and i might hold her down and see if canada and the western us can stand a georgia boy for a brief tour but as for now i have to know that when we hit the road it is right and again i appreciate all the comments and help.and i was looking at starters but the 85 86 87 models have different starters then the 84 to my understanding lets see what happens over the next few days
 
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