[gldavison]

HI,
Newbie second year rider. Problems with my bike and your help is greatly appreciated. Last year starting the bike was becoming more and more difficult with electric start button setting the ignition in progress. She sat all winter and I was told to change my Solenoid in the mean time. Never changed it but this spring she turned over three times then nothing again from button. Changed the solenoid but now get nothing when turning on key ignition, no headlight or fan as per usual? At least with old solenoid that took place. Not sure what I did but does this sound familar to anyone? My battery is good and checks out at 12+ volts at solenoid. What is the wishbone fuse? Is that the 30 amp blade fuse(?) on the solenoid? or is this another fuse?
Thanks for your help, learning is fun but learning electronics of vehicles was never easy for me. Thanks guys, ride safe the weather is right now in WI finally.
Greg

 

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Hi thanks thus far but still no go. I have more clues. Your right the existing and new solenoids each have a 30 amp blade type fuse along with 4 male blade terminals. I have three wires to attach to the blades does it matter where each one goes? Is there a diagram?
Next I took the seat off to follow some wire harness' and upon doing so I found a yellow maybe 14 ga wire with 10 amp blade fuse attached to lead on an open loop end connector?? Make sense of that? THis was loose under the seat??? Looks like the wire would tap onto battery terminal and in following travels up towards main fuse block but detours just prior to a block of somekind.
Also in looking into the fuses on the main fuse block near gas tank fill, I found one of the feeding two wires to the block off. I have no idea how this could have happend other than me knocking it off. I re fastened onto block but still nothing.

I direct powered starter from battery and she cranks. Still no clue on what to do and why no overall ignition power anylonger? Keep thinking fellas please.
Greg

 

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Replaced solenoid originally cause bike was no longer starting or doing anything when starter button was pushed. intermittent problems prior to it failing altogether.
That is why it was changed.
Even when bike would not crank when button was pushed the fan and headlight would run. Now that is not even taking place?

I did not try to jump terminals on solenoid to get bike to crank for fear of the arcing burning something up. I simply touched starter lead to battery and she ran.

So the question I was looking to find is the location of those three wires on the solenoid as to their positioning? Does it matter? I see no way to ID their locations.
Thanks for hanging in there with me.
Greg

 

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fuses are all good

 

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I only have one larger red wire with a spade Female end on it for the solenoid, no red/white. Do have the other two smaller Red/green and yellow/red leads.

 

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Not finding this second red wire from battery with 30 amp fuse? Only found the loose yellow wire with a loop connector on it and an in line 10 amp fuse

 

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just put everything back together and jumped the two terminals on Solenoid and it turned over. Still nothing at the key switch though?
Do we know what that yellow wire I found under the seat is with the inline 10 amp fuse is? I did not connect this one anywhere at present. still did not find a red/white wire with a fuse though. looked.

How can I get back to where I was with the engine simply not turning over? Why did I lose the fan and dash lights with the key switch? I do have a meter so I can check things as directed. Thanks for your patience with my problem.

 

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Found a diagram for wiring the three spade ended wires on top of the solenoid but get nothing.
Checked starter button but did not find it gunked up. I am stumped.
Thanks for your continued assistance.
Greg

 

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I just put my old solenoid back on the bike and this gave me power at the accessories/light/fan through the turning of the ignition key. Hope I am back on track and just picked up a used solenoid that is junk. Time to take it back tomorrow. Thanks for your help. I will keep you posted. Thanks Don.
Greg

 

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Went back to shop and got new solenoid. I continue to receive power at ignintion which is good but I get nothing passing through solenoid. 30 amp fuse on solenoid does show power passing through it.
Here is a picture of the solenoid that I have on my bike, not actual but looks identical.
Thanks,
Greg

 

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Thanks for your help again guys. I must reinterate that I am not good with electronics on low volt systems. I do have a tester but do not understand it all that well. I understand Ohms are resistance and not good right? I can check for voltage easy enough though.
My understanding is that the Yellow/red wire runs to the start button and the green/red is the ground. ??
So in my mind the y/r wire caries voltage to start button and the G/R wire must be bringing power back to solenoid and delivers it to the starter terminal???? Am I correct in my thinking?
Thanks
Greg