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The fairing house the headlights, speakers for the radio, a wiring harness, electronics, headlight adjuster, gauges and vents. The radio is in the center console and a gas door, under all that is the air filter.
none of that sounds heavy.so the weight of the abs and the frame mounts must be the bulk of the weight.Nothing I can do about that
 

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Re. the Valkyrie you once had....it's not a high compression motor. And....if you only got 28 mpg it needed attention. I have a '98 Tourer decked out similar to the Valk Interstate(HD fairing, trunk off a GL1100, bags, radiator pods), running at/above 70mph loaded I'll get in the mid-30s all day long on the superslab. On the country roads where you can only run 55-65 I've been able to hit 40mpg. In fact I got 32 pulling a trailer running around 73.

A year ago I completed a rebuild of a basket case '84 Standard 1200. The tank had more holes than metal so got tossed and I adapted a Valkyrie Std. tank to it. Fairly simply, just takes a little welding and "ingunuity," plus I mounted it with a hinge at the back so to access the fuses, filter, etc., just remove the front bolt and tip it up. The frame on that was also round tubing, you just work around it. Got ride of the OEM shocks that kept you in nosebleed height and used 12" for a Valk, fit fine. Was a fun project, just take a long look at what you have and experiment. You've rec'd. some good suggestions already.
 

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Re. the Valkyrie you once had....it's not a high compression motor. And....if you only got 28 mpg it needed attention. I have a '98 Tourer decked out similar to the Valk Interstate(HD fairing, trunk off a GL1100, bags, radiator pods), running at/above 70mph loaded I'll get in the mid-30s all day long on the superslab. On the country roads where you can only run 55-65 I've been able to hit 40mpg. In fact I got 32 pulling a trailer running around 73.

A year ago I completed a rebuild of a basket case '84 Standard 1200. The tank had more holes than metal so got tossed and I adapted a Valkyrie Std. tank to it. Fairly simply, just takes a little welding and "ingunuity," plus I mounted it with a hinge at the back so to access the fuses, filter, etc., just remove the front bolt and tip it up. The frame on that was also round tubing, you just work around it. Got ride of the OEM shocks that kept you in nosebleed height and used 12" for a Valk, fit fine. Was a fun project, just take a long look at what you have and experiment. You've rec'd. some good suggestions already.

While I welcome suggestions and comments some of your comments I dislike but still welcome them for whatever help they give me.On my 98 Valkyrie tourer, getting 28 mpg.There was nothing wrong with it, it did not need attention.Anytime on any forum someone says their mileage is low people say well that's not right, theirs gets such and such.Most times a carb cleaning is needed to remedy the problem.Not with my Valkyrie.How do I know.It held 6.1 gallons.The first day I got it it was full from the dealer. I had ridden for several miles,hot rodding it.I had gone from a 750 shadow. I ran out of gas at 99 miles.I assumed the bike was messed up, called the dealer and was angry.My wife brought a can of gas.voila.Problem solved. The most I got was 32 riding in a normal manner. secondly yes I could possibly put a valk tank on.the frames are totally different.I am not going to do that.I could buy another Valkyrie first.I was trying to make a f6b thanks to trike ladies suggestions.lastly, yes I have been given some good suggestions.There is not a limit how many I can be given as far as I know.Trike lady knows all the stuff I needed to know and most likely way beyond.I did not know what is inside the fairing.Now I know.Not much weight contributing gear inside it.So probably other than stripping it down and fitting a valk tank no more weight will come off.The frame differences between a Valkyrie and Goldwing 1500 are too vast.What you did on your bikes is very impressive. I am 70.My first Goldwing was an 88.I was about 55 then.I never really noticed the weight that much.Now I do. Please do not hesitate to offer your suggestions, typing does not reveal any moods or emotions.I am more disappointed I cant get more weight off than I am complaining.If my comments make you think I am asking for too many suggestions, I am sorry.
 

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.On my 98 Valkyrie tourer, getting 28 mpg.There was nothing wrong with it, it did not need attention.Anytime on any forum someone says their mileage is low people say well that's not right, theirs gets such and such.Most times a carb cleaning is needed to remedy the problem.Not with my Valkyrie.How do I know.It held 6.1 gallons.The first day I got it it was full from the dealer. I had ridden for several miles,hot rodding it.I had gone from a 750 shadow. I ran out of gas at 99 miles.I assumed the bike was messed up, called the dealer and was angry.My wife brought a can of gas.voila.Problem solved. The most I got was 32 riding in a normal manner.

I have seen MPG reports run the full range of way low, to astronomically impossible. I am always suspect of the superior high numbers.

I use a cellphone app called "Fuelio" that tracks MPG over the long term, and from tank to tank.

Just yesterday I went for a ride and having recalled just recently topping off the fuel, did not give any thought to not having enough for a trip of 175 miles.... but at 175 miles my bike is nearing running out of gas, I should have topped it off the day before I left.

I had to stop at 80 miles and top it up, took 4.3 gallons out of 6.7 total.
Oops!! that 80 miles fuel stop was actually 140 miles since last fueled up. Uh oh.

Riding just another 40 miles would have put me into the reserve RED zone and FUEL LOW light... As the last 42 miles was just twisties and no fuel pumps, I could not chance that. the full trip length yesterday was 175 miles, each way.

Going down, I had head winds, coming home I had a right quartering side to rear tail wind.... but, I was tired and riding at or below the speed limits. the 2nd top off for yesterday was vastly better than the 1st one...... the trip down, I was riding 10+ over the speed limit of 75 at times, 70 most of the time and 65 the rest of the way.... so conserving fuel was not top of the list.

I discount all reported gas consumption reports, UNLESS the owner meticulously records every drop of gas.... something that I do.

I have owned two 1500s, and now an 1800.... guess what? Overall, all 3 of those bikes averaged 33 mpg, Day in and Day out...... and both bike models have owners who say they never get below 40 or 45 mpg....

I say Balderdash, they did not ride beside me over the same terrain..... my bikes have returned almost 45 MPG, but in each instance, the top speeds for those trips was 45 MPH... no where near 80 or 85 mph into headwinds.

the type of windshield is important also. big one? tiny one? the 1500s both had Tulsa Tall windscreens, and 32 to 33 mpg was the best they ever did.

my 1800 has a Madstad and the screen can drop down as low as 7 or 8 inches above the dash.... or it can be raised to 12 to 14 inches above the dash.... I did both yesterday, down going at first, helmet shaking giving me a headache, raised it to the top and wind turbulence gone, but gas mileage got worse.

here is a screen shot of the last 3 fill-ups for the 1800, notice the extremely wide values reported. both of the lower numbers were on very long trips into head winds and running +5 or +10 over the Speedlimit. Notice the numbers, ~36mpg and ~32 and ~26 mpg.


 

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I have seen MPG reports run the full range of way low, to astronomically impossible. I am always suspect of the superior high numbers.

I use a cellphone app called "Fuelio" that tracks MPG over the long term, and from tank to tank.

Just yesterday I went for a ride and having recalled just recently topping off the fuel, did not give any thought to not having enough for a trip of 175 miles.... but at 175 miles my bike is nearing running out of gas, I should have topped it off the day before I left.

I had to stop at 80 miles and top it up, took 4.3 gallons out of 6.7 total.
Oops!! that 80 miles fuel stop was actually 140 miles since last fueled up. Uh oh.

Riding just another 40 miles would have put me into the reserve RED zone and FUEL LOW light... As the last 42 miles was just twisties and no fuel pumps, I could not chance that. the full trip length yesterday was 175 miles, each way.

Going down, I had head winds, coming home I had a right quartering side to rear tail wind.... but, I was tired and riding at or below the speed limits. the 2nd top off for yesterday was vastly better than the 1st one...... the trip down, I was riding 10+ over the speed limit of 75 at times, 70 most of the time and 65 the rest of the way.... so conserving fuel was not top of the list.

I discount all reported gas consumption reports, UNLESS the owner meticulously records every drop of gas.... something that I do.

I have owned two 1500s, and now an 1800.... guess what? Overall, all 3 of those bikes averaged 33 mpg, Day in and Day out...... and both bike models have owners who say they never get below 40 or 45 mpg....

I say Balderdash, they did not ride beside me over the same terrain..... my bikes have returned almost 45 MPG, but in each instance, the top speeds for those trips was 45 MPH... no where near 80 or 85 mph into headwinds.

the type of windshield is important also. big one? tiny one? the 1500s both had Tulsa Tall windscreens, and 32 to 33 mpg was the best they ever did.

my 1800 has a Madstad and the screen can drop down as low as 7 or 8 inches above the dash.... or it can be raised to 12 to 14 inches above the dash.... I did both yesterday, down going at first, helmet shaking giving me a headache, raised it to the top and wind turbulence gone, but gas mileage got worse.

here is a screen shot of the last 3 fill-ups for the 1800, notice the extremely wide values reported. both of the lower numbers were on very long trips into head winds and running +5 or +10 over the Speedlimit. Notice the numbers, ~36mpg and ~32 and ~26 mpg.


yeah.its irritating when someone claims they get great mileage and my bike must need fixing. never heard of madstad.I will be looking into that. Mine has that real tall tulsa type.I hate those.No matter what else I do that is going to be cut down or replaced
 

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Now that the radio is gone, there's a filler panel that goes in there on the center console. Unless yours had the radio in the left side of the fairing. To fill that void there's a plastic pocket with a snap cover.
 

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yeah.its irritating when someone claims they get great mileage and my bike must need fixing. never heard of madstad.I will be looking into that. Mine has that real tall tulsa type.I hate those.No matter what else I do that is going to be cut down or replaced
Madstad :
CycleMax is the sole vendor.

https://cyclemax.com/inc/searchresults?s=madstad&ss=madstad&n=334787

After putting up with 3 Tulsa Tall windscreens, and sweating like hell behind them, I will never again use anything except for the Madstad.

Need some cooling air? you got it.
Need the wind blocked out of your face? you got it.
 

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Now that the radio is gone, there's a filler panel that goes in there on the center console. Unless yours had the radio in the left side of the fairing. To fill that void there's a plastic pocket with a snap cover.
no.it was unplugged by the previous person.he had a sort of plastic square that fit over it.I figure that's what you meant.
 

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no.it was unplugged by the previous person.he had a sort of plastic square that fit over it.I figure that's what you meant.
That sounds like the lid that covered the radio and that's good. BLUTHUNDR31 has one that fills in the void where the radio went and its a flush fit. This is going to be an interesting build project.
 

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I found a Valkyrie frame and had that idea.it would not be less work.trike ladies idea is much better.rather than buildinga entire bike starting with an untitled unvinned frame, merely take a running existing bike and modify it.the black and red f6b that came out years ago has always been one of my favorites
 

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whats your opnion.i know you might not like either version.when I cut the tall windshield to about 10 inches, should I make the cut arclike mimicking the original curve or go straight across as I saw denny berg do the cobra custom goldwing
 

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I'd go with straight across as it will look like the $127.00 one.
I'm not impress with the Cobra Goldwing, still looks like a GL1800, but yours when done will be a GL1500/F6B. You can also remove the covers on the motor and show the stuff that most of us want hidden.
Well now I know, you like the F6B and you'll make your own version.
 

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I'd go with straight across as it will look like the $127.00 one.
I'm not impress with the Cobra Goldwing, still looks like a GL1800, but yours when done will be a GL1500/F6B. You can also remove the covers on the motor and show the stuff that most of us want hidden.
Well now I know, you like the F6B and you'll make your own version.
2 things.first of all thank you for your suggestions.the red and black bike you inserted is motorcycle perfection in my opinion. mine will never look like that because the 1500 styling is so bulbous and gargantuan.But I can get her dieted down somewhat.
second, and not necessarily lastly I haven't got my manual yet.I prefer paper versions.The engine cover removal,not sure where the dividing line is on the covers., but definitely will do that.I don't want to start dremeling virgin abs.the manual will show me. I have a guy who is a pro painter that owes me for a bmw flying brick I sold him.He will do the painting. what I liked about berg's wing was the cutdown tourpack.I cant imagine how a person can section out abs and get it all glued back together and make the closure halves fit right.But I am going lengthened seat and no tourpack anyway ala f6b. I hope the wires that open and close my saddlebags are available.I broke mine. p.s. I just ordered that windshield you linked to me
 

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It all depends on what kind of time you feel like investing to get what you want. I'll look for the link, but there is a guy who completely replaced the bodywork on his GL1500, to get the look he wanted. It was an amazing job.

Did you see this version?


https://goldwingdocs.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=14556#p73696
no I did not see that.i love it.much like what I want to do.time is not a problem.I am retired and have another daily rider
 
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