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I've noticed my 1500 requires a lot of correctional input when starting off slowly, especially in tight quarters and slightly off camber.

Sunday after coming home from a ride,as I pulled into the garage, I got a little off center and in correcting it, I jerked the handlebars a bit. It responded with a shudder to the front end. A little unnerved, I tried to reproduce the response and found if I gave the bars a quick jolt off center the front end did actually shudder, for want of a better term. Almost like the forks were tweaking, then springing back.

Forks have fresh oil at the right level, there's no wobble going down the road, and it handles nicely in the twisties.

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normal stuff! my 88 is the same with 22,000 miles:merrysanta:
 

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really?! Thought I was nuts
 

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no fork brace
 

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I added a fork brace to my 98 along with checking the stearing head bearings and the problem was fixed. I would start with the bearing first.
 

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Hope it's normal............mine has always done that - with or without the fork brace.
Freaked me out at first, but the bike rides normally and once I got past worrying about it, all is well.

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Just the nature of the beast.

Quit looking for problems. Just ride it and enjoy.

We can nit pick anything until it is a major nuisance, or we can just ignore the little ripples in life and go on like they aren't there. Enjoy the road sofa and the long miles of smiles.

All of our bikes have little nuances down below 15 mph, that don't mean they are broke.

The less I worry, the lower my stress level.

To quote a Mad Magazine cartoon, "What? Me worry?"
 

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Perhaps a more accurate wording than just shudder, would be if I turn the handle bars quickly, it seems like the forks then spring to catch up. Really noticeable if I jerk the bars. I have checked the front wheel for excessive play, and there is no "notchiness" of the stem bearing. I look into further checking that. I'll enlist the help of one of my daughters to hold the front wheel and see if I can torque the bars without moving the wheel. If I can then a forkbrace is in order, if not, I'll just learn to live with it.

This is just an unnerving feeling, and I sure don't have it on my ST1300 or FatBob.
 

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Doxbike wrote:
Perhaps a more accurate wording than just shudder, would be if I turn the handle bars quickly, it seems like the forks then spring to catch up. Really noticeable if I jerk the bars.
OK... I know that folks are telling you that this is normal and nothing is wrong, but the more you describe it, the worse it sounds.

IMHO something IS wrong. Sounds like something in the steering head is catching, which is bad.You need to figurethis out before the bike puts you on the ground.

Let us know what you find out please.

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The other thing for me was the Fork Brace it really helped with slow speed problems. There are two different kinds I went with the non-superbrace and I just love it. So I would say a fork Brace is probabily in order no matter what you find.....
 

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Fork brace of no help.

Went to the local Stealer, they got their head GW man to look at it. No problem with the steering head bearings, front wheel bearings, swing arm bearings. Good to go he says.

Still can't believe it's "normal" as I never felt it in the 5 months I've owned it.

Coming back into the garage after a long ride to the desert, "it" really became apparent. I turned the bars to the left,but there was a teeeeny delay, so I turned it more,then it turned, so I had to correct to the right. Again a teeeny delay, so more right, then had to correct to the left, etc., etc. Felt like a drunk pushing a shopping cart thru an obstacle course. Unnerving to say the least.

Again, no discernible problem at speed.

Could it be the tire trying to delaminate internally? No external evidence of a problem.

This week I'm gonna take to the local GW specialists to see what they think.
 

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What tire? What pressure? When were the fork bushings last replaced?
Have you tested the steering head bearings?

Also what rear tire and pressure?
 

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Have no idea when bearings were replaced, but mechanic could detect nothing in either area.

Elite 3's 41 front, 42 rear
 

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Doxbike wrote:
Fork brace of no help.

Went to the local Stealer, they got their head GW man to look at it. No problem with the steering head bearings, front wheel bearings, swing arm bearings. Good to go he says.

Still can't believe it's "normal" as I never felt it in the 5 months I've owned it.

Coming back into the garage after a long ride to the desert, "it" really became apparent. I turned the bars to the left,but there was a teeeeny delay, so I turned it more,then it turned, so I had to correct to the right. Again a teeeny delay, so more right, then had to correct to the left, etc., etc. Felt like a drunk pushing a shopping cart thru an obstacle course. Unnerving to say the least.

Again, no discernible problem at speed.

Could it be the tire trying to delaminate internally? No external evidence of a problem.

This week I'm gonna take to the local GW specialists to see what they think.
Very understandable to me as I felt it in mine, like it's a cracked frame. I felt it after this last new set of tires were fresh new. I went about retightening the steering bearings, already had a superbrace. Fresh fork oil though didn't do the bushings, rechecked the bearings in the wheels, checked for play in the swingarm while I got it replicate the 'shudder' standing still and moving the bars back and forth.
Next for me is to check the frame over. Honda had the 1800 frame welds problem when they first came out so it could be a possible frame problem.
 

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The fork flexes easily. Heavy bike, and the fork tubes are a little under-designed for the load IMO. You see that new big bore sport bikes have gone to the very large diameter upside-down forks... for a reason. Quick story - 2 years ago with my 1st GL1100 I was riding home across the prairies thru a very remote part of Saskatchewan. I encountered road construction - they'd completely removed the old road bed and were down to dirt. It was rough, very rough, and the front forks flexed so bad (I was carrying a heavy load of camping gear) I could visibly see the twisting and at times could barely keep the bike under control. My 1500, a '91, at times has a flexy shake to the front end too. I acquired a NIP Blackwing brace of a member here... (not installed yet mind you).
 

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The fork flexes easily.
I agree............

T.
 

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Called an "old school" Honda mechanic who suggested I increase the front air and decrease the rear and give that a try. Dropped the rear to 30# from 55psi and increased the forks from 2 to 6 psi. Dramatic improvement! Seems to take a load off the front end, allowing it to turn more easily without any "grabbing". I dropped to 22# in the rear and will evaluate tomorrow. Keep you posted
 

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Staying Tuned.........
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Knew ya' would be:raspberry:
 
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