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Since the Wing has evolved into an 1800cc six banger behemoth, how about reintroducing a smaller, lighter4cyl model like the 1100/1200. I know several riders that prefer to ride their old 4 banger around town or on the local twisties as it's lighter and easier to handle. I ride my 1200 on the interstate, but use my 1000 or 1100 around town. Willie
 

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This part of the forum is for suggestions on how to IMPROVE the goldwing ,,anything else can be discussed in the general discussion forum ,,thank you Ciaran
 

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So!!!!! what's to say that a 1200 could not be an improved Goldwing? bigger does not always mean better BMDBLU seem to have done ok with sticking at 1200cc! in fact maybe a true European spec Goldwing would be a 1200 cc alloy framed bike, maintaining the lower centre of gravity than the Beemer, the torque of a horizontally opposed motor, all of this would suit european roads - twistys et al- 1800s or 2000 if you need it even bigger Ciaran for route 66 and all the other straightaways. It would also give our American buddies a Goldwing alternative for a lighter sportier tourer?? C'mon a bit of lateral thinking here :cool::cool:
 

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Kenny's right! So very, very, very right! If Mother Honda brought out a brand new 1100 just like my 81', I'd buy it a heartbeat! A heartbeat!

My 1500 is beautiful, comfortable, powerful.... and too big. Who in hades needs more than a thousand cc's anyway, even on American roads? And with the gasoline shortage and the mideast situation, it is nearly our duty to ride smaller, more efficient bikes. C'mon, Mother Honda -- listen to Kenny! Smaller would be an improvement.....

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Cousin Jack wrote:
Kenny's right! So very, very, very right! If Mother Honda brought out a brand new 1100 just like my 81', I'd buy it a heartbeat! A heartbeat!

.......Smaller would be an improvement.....
What the heck kind of men are you? Bigger and more poweris always better!!!:cheeky1::cheeky1::cheeky1:

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Except in wives, that is!!!!!!:cheeky1::cheeky1::cheeky1::cheeky1:

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Cousin Jack wrote:
[align=left]Except in wives, that is!!!!!![/align]
You got that right. :cheeky1::cheeky1::cheeky1:

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Jluvs2dive wrote:
Cousin Jack wrote:
Kenny's right! So very, very, very right! If Mother Honda brought out a brand new 1100 just like my 81', I'd buy it a heartbeat! A heartbeat!

.......Smaller would be an improvement.....
What the heck kind of men are you? Bigger and more poweris always better!!!:cheeky1::cheeky1::cheeky1:

John
Do you remember back in the 70' when Yamaha were cleaning up the 350cc class championships? the bike was so fast that they bored it out a couple of more cc's so that it qualified for the 500cc class and it eat them as well huh???:D:D
 

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Kenny wrote:
Do you remember back in the 70' when Yamaha were cleaning up the 350cc class championships? the bike was so fast that they bored it out a couple of more cc's so that it qualified for the 500cc class and it eat them as well huh???:D:D
Are you kidding? How could I remember that, I was only a kid at the time. I graduated from high school in '79. You must be old. No wonder you forgot that bigger and more power is always better!:cheeky1::cheeky1::cheeky1:
 

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I am 53 son, bought my first motorbike magazine at 12 -still have it- was stripping and rebuilding m/bike engines by 13 had a BSA gold star - could only ride it in the back garden though- by 14, knew what was going on in the world of motorcycling lllooonng before I left high school, anyhow before Axeman axes me elsewhere, point I was trying to make is that bigger is not always better, depends on the application + the advances made in metalurgy and electronics; Latest VW Golf GTi is 1400cc 167bhp & 177lbtft trq!:action::action:
 

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Kenny wrote:
.........point I was trying to make is that bigger is not always better, depends on the application + the advances made in metalurgy and electronics;........
Lol, my sense of humor must have gotten lost in my words Kenny. I'm only joking with you. Have you ever watched the TV program called Home Improvement? If not, it's a comedy about a guy that has a TV show about doing home repairs and upgrades. His mantra is always "more power" & bigger is better. (insert sound of men grunting).:D I think a second line of Wings that were smaller might do well.

Wexman, sorry about taking this off topic. I'll put my self in time out now.:cheeky1:

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Me I am pretty sure there is a market for bikes like the Silverwing, which was originally planned as a ladies bike......my son in law started on one and loved it, so did I actually that 500 had some real zip to it even at 100,000+ kms on it :D With todays technology a much improved smaller wing could be done quite well, something to consider with rising fuel costs......but me I am also with the Home Improvemnt line of thinking, its a redneck guy thing :cooldevil::grinner:

One must wonder tho, would the market for a smaller version of todays Wing be enough to pay for all the R&D, and would the price of the end product be reasonable enough for the buyers wanting a smaller luxury bike? I did take my old1980 CB750C and make a full dresser out of it, but unfortunately it did not have the suspension and smoothness needed for long rides, at least not for my ole bones ;)

I suspect the concept has probably been considered by Honda but market research proved that the idea would not be profitable enough........just my thoughts tho.....:stumped:
 

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No problem John I know you were just pulling my leg,, haven't seen that TV programme over here though, I'll let you know what I think of my 18 when it get's here. Talk to you soon.:waving::waving::waving::waving:
 

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Kenny wrote:
No problem John I know you were just pulling my leg,, haven't seen that TV programme over here though, I'll let you know what I think of my 18 when it get's here. Talk to you soon.:waving::waving::waving::waving:
The guy that did the show got his start doing standup comedy. At one gig, he did this thing about rebuilding the recliner in the living room with a chevy small block v8. Worked great till Granny got launched out the front window...:cheeky1:



Oh, and to keep it on topic, what do you think about a small wing?:goofygrin:
 

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Let's look at this semi-logically. There are multiple versions of most every model Honda makes i.e. CBR 600, 1000; Shadow 650, 750 1100 etc. With the high cost of gas there has to be a market of new riders that would love a touring bike but are terrified of starting on a 1800cc bike. IMHO, money for development is not a problem with Honda (I'd love to have just the interest in what make in a day). The solution is to get their marketing folks to look at current market to see what's there. Sure seems to me that there is a glaring gap in the not-so-long -distance touring market. A 800 to 1200 touring bike would allowthe new rider a bit more affordablebike that would also be great for commuting & daytrips.
 

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Not to mention the fact that if its is a good experience, they are likely to upgrade to the Papa Wing...;)
 

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Well that's it settled so, the new Smaller Wing is called a Pan European st 1300 all we need nowis sombody to start making shiney bits for it and change the name to Junior Wing:action::action:
 
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