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In Oregon this past week alone state troopers arrested no fewer than five cycle riders endangering not only other drivers but themselves traveling at speeds in excess of 100mph. Most on highways with 55 mph posted limit.



Speed alone would be enough but weaving in and out between slower vehicles, more evidence of irresponsible and stupid ( yes, STUPID) riding behavior. This kind of behavior gives the entire riding fraternity a black eye.



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And they keep selling zoom splats to kids & idiots! Until laws are toughened up, not only in the USA but also here in Canada, This will continue to happen. Once you have to stop and assist at an accident scene, you get the full effect of the aftermath from stupidity.
 

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Now now Hatchetman, don't blame the bike. My son is a zoomsplat rider and myself, I like riding them, if only my back would put up with it. He rents time on a track for high speed thrills. Otherwise, he obeys the laws like most of us. The problem of course is youth and immaturity the latter of which might not be age related.
Public highways are not the place for high speed thrills, no matter what you drive or ride. Having said that, I can sure remember being involved in a lot of drag races on public highways as a teenager. All I can do now is shake my head when I see stuff like that and wonder if they will ever learn. Is that what you call old age?
 

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Just this morning we had a 26 y.o. male killed in aspeed related mc accident, hit a light pole on a 2002 Honda. Even on the interstates speed is a problem when you loose control.
 

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It's called frontal lobe development; it is not complete in males until the mid-20's.

I go back and forth with this in my mind all the time. My youngest son rides a gsxr; he's 19 and I think . . . hope that most of the time he is responsible. I insisted he take a Motorcycle Safety Class before he got the bike. There is a big part of me that wishes these bikes were not street legal, just because I know that young people in particular want to see how fast they can go. In the water world the zoom-splats are the wave runners. They are very fast and maneuverable, and at least in the state of Missouri are the cause of most boating accidents.

Every time I see a sports bike doing wheelies in traffic I cringe, and I see it frequently in the Kansas City area. How difficult it is to draw the line legally to help people live in reasonable safety with one another. No law . . . you have anarchy, too much law . . . you have oppression.

Common sense would be the best answer, but it is a commodity that is shrinking faster then our 401K's.

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Obviously I was NOT at a loss for words. Somewhere between zoom splat irresponsible riding and the point where reason, responsibility and maturity kicks in lies the answer.



My intent was not to judge or condemn all zoom splat riders, just those who make life chancey and sometimes final for those who prefer and practice safe, sane and sensible riding on any kind or bike.



Reading in the local paper or watching TV any morning there are reports of cagers who haven't quite matured in their driving habits and practice. Beats me why so many head-on cager collisions are occuring these days.

Too much speed, inattention while using a cell phone, or too much drinking will do it every time...so I conclude.



Meanwhile, great riding weather and time to enjoy.



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I have been a Police Officer since 1986. I spent the first 13 years as a street Cop. Our town has a Traffic Division that works all serious injury and fatal accidents. That being said I have assisted the Traffic guys on many occausions, and have seen some wild and stupid wrecks. Anything that will roll on a road has been missused by all ages, sexes and ethnic backgrounds. I've seen a bicycle rider run over on a 55mph interstate, a go-kart driven under a car on a local street and even a riding lawnmower being driven to the local store. Hundreds of car accidents and M/C accidents. If it will roll people will drive or ride it, and sometimes to their death.
 

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It is a shame to see individuals being careless with not only their lives but the civilians around them.

A while back I followed a sheriff's deputy who was following two crotch rockets down a major 6 lane highway.

As soon as he turned off they started their 60 mph wheelies down the road. If he had wanted to bad enough, he could have stopped them for how their tags were mounted.

Both were above the rear tire inside the rear fender?

They did their foolishness for about two miles and somehow lucked out and stopped just three blocks before they came upon his partner sitting on the side of the road waiting for them.
 

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There is nothing, andI mean NOTHING, that will stop a younger rider wanting to throw the hammer down if that is what he/she chooses to do. I too have done my share of hammer-down riding. The threat of being caught was always part of the deal, hightened the experience andNEVER detered my desire to try it again. Hammer-DownIS my drug. NO LAW enacted will stop it. Being older now, I take it to the track where it belongs. I holdNOTHING against them. When I go to the track, I try to take as many younger-than-me people with me as I can. Sometimes I go alone because I need it for me.I do it all for a reason... I have a purpose in doing it.



Right now, they don't want nothing to do with your fraternity. They don't even recognize it.



At least those five stopped an took their medicine..... because some don't.



Save A Zoom-Splat... and take 'em to a track!
 

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I think most of us started off riding fairly irresponsibly as teenagers, I certainly did, at 17 I was invincible on my Honda CD175 and when I upgraded to a CB250K4 I was king of the road.The lucky ones learn before it kills them Unfortunately, the Darwin principle weeds out the slow learners and those who ignore lifes little lessons.
 

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I watch bikers do that so much lately, and it's always the zoomsplats. I never see Big Bikes doing it. At least not here. I don't get it. They are just asking for a trip to the hospital. And what I can tell they are young.
 

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hatchetman wrote:
Once you have to stop and assist at an accident scene, you get the full effect of the aftermath from stupidity.
+1.



11 years as a MT LEO and living through the insane "reasonable and prudent" speed limit years, I'm here to tell you that being first on the scene isn't fun.:(
 

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I'm not a kid and I'm pretty big on the Motorcycle Safety thing, but I admit that I have been known to "Go Fast" every now and then.

Stunting down the crowded interstate isn't what I mean, that irresponsible. But put me out on a deserted stretch of two lane and I'll pour on the steam.

My bike really comes alive over 100 mph. and I like it. Motorcycles to me mean performance.

I make mine perform.
 

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To be honest I have to admit I know how fast most every bike I've owned will go. I don't try it out on roads with traffic but there are lots of lonely stretches of two lane road that have few other vehicles. Oddly enough the top speed of my '93 Goldwing and my '04 Silverwing are nearly the same. The 'sitting in a wind tunnel' effect is much less on the Goldwing though.
 
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