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A few months back I reported that my 1989 GL had the dreaded transmission fault and was in for repair. The job has now been carried out and is back on the road , and feels as good as new. I,ve just returned froma 3000 mile tour of Germany, Switzerland, Northern Italy, South of France, Andorra and the Pyranees. The bike performed as well as ever, especially with the new stainless brake lines I had fitted.

My only concern, is thatthe the specialist who repaired the transmission, says there are no gaurantees that this fault will never reoccur, and that it is and has always been a recognised problem on the 88-91 wings. The problem started on mine at 70k miles. I drive the bike fairly hard, especially when running in the twisties and use the gears frequently. Hopefully this problem will not reoccur as I aim to put at least 100k miles on the bike.

My point is that I will not be changing my riding style, and feel that a goldwing transmmission should be able to take the strain of frequent gear changes.

Has anyone else had this repair, and how has the transmission lasted after that.

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The fault started during warm up of the bike one day, whilst on the centre stand. If revved the bike would emit a grinding noise, similiar to a fan motor impeller hitting the cowling. This initially was intermittant, but got worse very quickly after this. When riding the bike it became very evident on decelleration.

The fault was diagnosed to be a damaged shift selector fork, which begins to grind on the 4th gear cog. Apparently this is fairly common on the 88-91 bikes. The specialist who repaired the bike, stated that this is due to hard use of the gears and insufficient oil changes (I have always changed the oil regularly). He stated that Honda America had been petitioned in the past to accept this as a design fault , but to no avail. The specialist reckons he has repaired around 30 of these. The repair involves removal of the engine and splitting of the crankcase for access to the transmission. A costly excercise as you will appreciate. The bike seems great at the moment, so I hope it will last me for many thousands of miles yet.

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hey scotwing:waving: Glad you are up and running again.
 

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The repair involves removal of the engine and splitting of the crankcase for access to the transmission. A costly excercise as you will appreciate. The bike seems great at the moment, so I hope it will last me for many thousands of miles yet.

Joe
Not something that I wanted to read :shock:Being the owner of a 1989 GL1500, I hate to think about it. I should imagine it cost you an arm and a leg to get sorted.

I hope for your sake it does last a VERY long time. If mine goes I think I would just break the bike and buy another.
 

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Glad you're rolling again! 3000 miles , way to go!

Curious as to which oil and grade oil you run?:baffled:
 
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Hey scotwing :leprechaun: Good to see that you have your:15red:back on the road again. :clapper:

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scotwing wrote:
The fault started during warm up of the bike one day, whilst on the centre stand. If revved the bike would emit a grinding noise, similiar to a fan motor impeller hitting the cowling. This initially was intermittant, but got worse very quickly after this. When riding the bike it became very evident on decelleration.

The fault was diagnosed to be a damaged shift selector fork, which begins to grind on the 4th gear cog. Apparently this is fairly common on the 88-91 bikes. The specialist who repaired the bike, stated that this is due to hard use of the gears and insufficient oil changes (I have always changed the oil regularly). He stated that Honda America had been petitioned in the past to accept this as a design fault , but to no avail. The specialist reckons he has repaired around 30 of these. The repair involves removal of the engine and splitting of the crankcase for access to the transmission. A costly excercise as you will appreciate. The bike seems great at the moment, so I hope it will last me for many thousands of miles yet.

Joe
Thanks for getting back to us.

I'll bet you shift a lot more carefully now. Keep your clutch filled with fluid and make sure that it's properly bled so that it works properly and gives full travel for proper clutch release.

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scotwing wrote:
The repair involves removal of the engine and splitting of the crankcase for access to the transmission. A costly excercise as you will appreciate. The bike seems great at the moment, so I hope it will last me for many thousands of miles yet.

Joe
Not something that I wanted to read :shock:Being the owner of a 1989 GL1500, I hate to think about it. I should imagine it cost you an arm and a leg to get sorted.

I hope for your sake it does last a VERY long time. If mine goes I think I would just break the bike and buy another.
Nor me:(:(:(1998 1500SE and I would be breaking mine too if it got that bad I recon. Spent too much time inside engines in the past, thanks for the hint at what we would expect to hear, but hope not to!!

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With over 100 Ft/Lbs of torque available, why dance on the shifter. The bike bends in the middle too much to ride "hard in the twisties.

I always leave mine in top gear and let the engine lug, pulls good from around 25 mpn in top gear and on those rare occasions I need to downshift, one tap down is plenty.

If you really want to dance on the road get a better partner, may I suggest a YZF R-1 or a Ducatti ST4. Keep the Wing in reserve for those more relaxed days.
 

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With over 100 Ft/Lbs of torque available, why dance on the shifter. The bike bends in the middle too much to ride "hard in the twisties.

I always leave mine in top gear and let the engine lug, pulls good from around 25 mpn in top gear and on those rare occasions I need to downshift, one tap down is plenty.

If you really want to dance on the road get a better partner, may I suggest a YZF R-1 or a Ducatti ST4. Keep the Wing in reserve for those more relaxed days.
Amen, brother
 

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With over 100 Ft/Lbs of torque available, why dance on the shifter. The bike bends in the middle too much to ride "hard in the twisties.

I always leave mine in top gear and let the engine lug, pulls good from around 25 mpn in top gear and on those rare occasions I need to downshift, one tap down is plenty.

If you really want to dance on the road get a better partner, may I suggest a YZF R-1 or a Ducatti ST4. Keep the Wing in reserve for those more relaxed days.
Amen, brother
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Tonys96 wrote:
With over 100 Ft/Lbs of torque available, why dance on the shifter. The bike bends in the middle too much to ride "hard in the twisties.

I always leave mine in top gear and let the engine lug, pulls good from around 25 mpn in top gear and on those rare occasions I need to downshift, one tap down is plenty.

If you really want to dance on the road get a better partner, may I suggest a YZF R-1 or a Ducatti ST4. Keep the Wing in reserve for those more relaxed days.
Amen again Tony96. :clapper:

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Tonys96 wrote:
With over 100 Ft/Lbs of torque available, why dance on the shifter. The bike bends in the middle too much to ride "hard in the twisties.

I always leave mine in top gear and let the engine lug, pulls good from around 25 mpn in top gear and on those rare occasions I need to downshift, one tap down is plenty.

If you really want to dance on the road get a better partner, may I suggest a YZF R-1 or a Ducatti ST4. Keep the Wing in reserve for those more relaxed days.

My wing has progressive springs and 450ias fitted. The tyres are Avon Venom X and are the best tyres I have ever had on the wing. Recently fitted stainless brake line. You may be surprised at how well the bike performs in the twisties. I for one believe in using a bike to it,s full potential....I also like to cruise some days when the mood takes me. It,s good to know the bike can perform when needed. Different strokes for different folks...thanks for the replies guys.

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scotwing, I think it's great to hear from someone who is not afraid to drive a Gold Wing. They are good handling bikes when the suspension and tires are in peak condition. I believe most guys that drive Wings think that they are slow, poor handling machines meant only for straight up driving down the highway only. There are others who don't even know what the redline is and they keep the revs under 5000. What a surprise they would get if they shifted at 7500 RPM (factory recommended redline.) TheWing may look like an elephant on the outside, but, put a good rider on it and most will be amazed at what it can do in the 1/4 mile and down the twisty roads.

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Amen! to that Vic. Nice to hear from a kindred spirit. I know there are others on this board that share our thoughts. The Swiss Alps and Pyranees for me are the greatest roads in the world and deserve to be ridden by appreciative riders. I have never felt my 1989 1500 has let me down in the handling department and has indeed surprised my VFR800; GSX750; ZZR1100 riding touring friends on every occassion. The added bonus is when we drive on the motorways (not very often), then the wing comes into it,s own. A wonderful machine.

I must add though that I am a different rider when my kids , familly or friends are onboard. The performance riding is for me and me alone.

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Joe, I never ride my Wing hard when my wife is behind me. For some reason, when she's with me I always feel a severe pounding on my back any time I exceed the posted speed limit by 10 KPH, a form of governor it seems. LOL. Besides, it's not fair to risk her life and limb just because I want to drive fast and on top of that it's just too hard to handle a big bike with an extra hundred pounds or soon it.

Wish I had some of those roads over here. Biggest hills we have in my area are the speed bumps in the mall parking lots, but, there are some nice, twisty roads here and there along the water's edge that make for nice rides.

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Hey Vic, British Columbia and the rockies should provide you with some great terrain. I have been checking out some of the motorcycle organised tour sites for Canada, and hopefully one day I,ll get to tour there. Maybe my 50th in a couple of years time.

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You'll be to "Old" a "Grizzly Bear" will catch you and eat you !:goofygrin:
 

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Don't get me wrong, I like to "Drive" ride my Wing hard at times also.

The flex in the forks, the rear tire trying to go straight as you push harder on the inside handlebar and the recoil as the suspension catches up. The centerstand grounding hard, levering the rear wheel off the ground.Yeah, I've experienced all of those thrills.

The brakes are barely adequate no matter what you do to them. Linking works great for touring but is a bane on hard riding.

Again I do understand what the Wing is capable of and it's limits. When you want to go "Fast" in the twisty bits, the Gold Wing isn't the bike to do it on.

Oh...by the way, try the Metzler tires if you want to feel confidence in traction
 
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