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Why not just save your money and use it to ship the things you need to bring to the places you'll be travelling?Or better yet learn how to pack lightly for the trips you take.Trailers behind motorcycles are accidents waiting to happen.

On our last group trip we had a couple of trailers in the group and I could not believe how poorly the Wings with trailers stopped and how distracting the trailers were for the drivers. They can sure take the fun out of a motorcycle ride.

The only trailer behind a bike that I can see being used safely is the single wheel, solid type hitch and even then this type will still mess upthe dynamics of the bike's handling. Because of the safety issues involved it'seasy to see why some places make it illegal to tow a trailer behind a motorcycle.

To me, towing a trailer behind a bike is almost like carrying a thrid passenger on your bike by letting the third person sit on your shoulders as you ride. It can be done, but, doesn't it defeat the original intent of the motorcycle experience?

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wolvertone wrote:
Isn't the motorcycle experience one of freedom and personal expression?

To each his own,,, let's see some pics when you are done!



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You are absolutely correct wolvertone. I apologize for sharing my experience regarding serious safety issues that I have observed. In the future I shall keep my opinions to myself.

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wolvertone wrote:
Goldwinger1984 wrote:
wolvertone wrote:
Isn't the motorcycle experience one of freedom and personal expression?

To each his own,,, let's see some pics when you are done!



Steve
You are absolutely correct wolvertone. I apologize for sharing my experience regarding serious safety issues that I have observed. In the future I shall keep my opinions to myself.

Vic
Vic, sounds like I stepped on your toes! Sorry, didn't mean to.

Your observations on safety are quite valid. I was merely stating that if that's what he wants to do, that's up to him.

No harm done?

Steve
No harm done wolvertone. It waspast my nap timeand I was a wee bit touchy.

There is always two sides to every story and both sides should always be reflected otherwise it would be a boring world to live in.

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Frenchy wrote:
Goldwinger1984 wrote:
wolvertone wrote:
Goldwinger1984 wrote:
wolvertone wrote:
Isn't the motorcycle experience one of freedom and personal expression?

To each his own,,, let's see some pics when you are done!



Steve
You are absolutely correct wolvertone. I apologize for sharing my experience regarding serious safety issues that I have observed. In the future I shall keep my opinions to myself.

Vic
Vic, sounds like I stepped on your toes! Sorry, didn't mean to.

Your observations on safety are quite valid. I was merely stating that if that's what he wants to do, that's up to him.

No harm done?

Steve
No harm done wolvertone. It waspast my nap timeand I was a wee bit touchy.

There is always two sides to every story and both sides should always be reflected otherwise it would be a boring world to live in.

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Vic,

I think there were more variables at play in Ontario this summer than just the trailers.:?

You must admit though, trailers do a good job of cleaning ditches.......:shock:

I know how it can be if you don't get your nap on time.;)

Your Fellow Survivor of the 2005 Classic Wing Get together.;)

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Frenchy, you are correct, they were other factors at play, but had it not been for the trailers there would have been no incidents regarding safety, becausewithoutthe trailers everyone would have been able to stop and manouevre at the same rate give or take a little for driver abilities.

For comparison's sake, consider your wife's beautiful trike; if you and her were traveling down the highway and you both did a panic stop you can bet that she will always stop her trike far faster than your gorgeous two wheeled yellow Wing. That's why safety would be best served if she rode in a group at the back of the pack. Can you imagine placing her trike in a panic stop situation where there were Gold Wings with trailers behind her trike? They would turn that wood sided bed of her'sto splinters because they simply cannot stop as fast as the trike with its massive rear tires that give lots of braking friction.

Besides, it wasn't just that incident that I was recollecting, there was another incident where I simply slowed down ( my brake lights were working bright and strong)and the Wing with trailer behind me went sailing past me because he plain and simply could not slow his flamed 1976 Wing and trailer combo quickly enoughto safely maintain control. This fellow drives 18 wheelers for a living and he later told me that hauling his trailer behind his Wingis a real chore and he has to be on his toes at all times when pulling the trailer behind his bike. One wrong move with a loaded trailer behind a bike and there is no forgiving, there's just a lot of peeled skin, bloody bruises and broken bones, at the least. If you sit and ponder the dynamics of pulling a trailer behind a motorcycle, joining the two together just does not make sense.

To go around a corner on a motorcycle you need to lean the bike and when you consider that a trailer tries to push the bike up straight when slowing around a corner and then tries to pull the bike down when accelerating through a cornerthe trailer can really cause some very quirky handling. Besides, a Gold Wing Aspencadecarrying a healthy driver and a passenger with the bags and trunk fully loaded is actually overloaded according to Honda and any further weight from the trailer creates a tremendous safety hazard.

I am not saying that pulling a trailer behind a Gold Wing cannot be done or should not be done, I'm just saying that it is impossible to safely pull a trailer behind a Gold Wing unless you really drop your speed dramatically and you do not try to keep up with motorcycles who are not pulling a trailer.

Knowing what I know today, I would never allow bikes with trailers to be part of the same travel group on the highway.The bikes with trailers should be traveling in a separate group ( or at least in the front of the pack, but, that slows us down and takes our fun and freedom to pursue cornersaway)at a much lower speed than non trailering bikes and they should leave well ahead of the rest of the group's departureso that we could all meet at the final destination simultaneously.

These are hard and fast safety rules that I will forevermore abide by unconditionally because I've seen the results, first hand, of breaking these rules to accomodate fellow Wingers with trailers.

I have a hitch and a trailer for my own Wing and since our trip in July my wife and I have vowed to never pull our trailer behind our 84 Aspencade again because of what we saw the other trailers doing as we went down the highway.

To each his own, but, I'll always prefer alightly packed motorcycleroad trip over a fully laden trailer being towed behind my bike because if you plan carefully, just about everything you might need on a motorcycle tour can be borrowed, arranged or rented at most popular places you might want to visit. It just takes a little legwork to set it all up before you leave for your trip.

Vic

P.S. That beautiful flamed 1976 Wing that was pulling the custom trailer is no more. It was demolished by a fire that also consumed its owner's home and all of his belongings. The bikes owner is fine, but, he is most upset by the loss of his beautiful Wing. Hopefully the insurance company will help him fully recover his losses and get his life back to normal again.
 

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I should think that anyone who is contemplating pulling a trailer behind their Wing should go out and practice some panic braking situations so that they know how to handle a bike by itself before they hook a trailer up to it. Then go out and drive on slick surfaces to get accustomed to dealing with quirky handling. I think that many accidents happen because drivers aren't familier with the different feeling of a fully loaded Gold Wing moving around oddly under them so they panic and come up at a loss as to what to do in the new situations such as riding on loose surfaces or hauling a trailer behind their Wing.

My suspicion is that there are some folks with Gold Wings who do not know how to performa full lock panic brake stop using both front and rear brakes appropriately.

Many guys I come across don't even know how the linked brakes work on their Wings and there are many more I believe that have never even tested the limits of their Wing's brakes. You would be surprised at how quickly you can stop a Gold Wing once you learn how to do it properly, but, I suggest that you take a proper motorcycle rider training course so that you can have someone demonstrate technique and assist you when situations arise.

When I taught my son how to ride a motorcycle I took him out on wet roads (me driving and him on the back of the GS1100)and locked the rear brake to show him how controlled slides felt. I also showed him how it felt to lock up the front wheel and recover from the bike tipping. This may sound crazy to some, but, all my hard work in teaching him about the limits of motorcycle dynamics has paid off in that he has never had a close call when riding because he is always prepared for the worst and knows how to recover from itand he also knows approximately what it feels like before he gets all the way there.

Crashing a motorcycle is never a good way to learn by experience, especially if good braking technique could have saved you the suffering.So do yourself a favor and learn how to drive your motorcycleto its limits before you go and hang hundreds of hurtling pounds of inertia behind it. You'll be glad you did learn some good driving traits if you ever blow a tire on your trailer or your hitch breaks and your trailer is hanging by the safety chains as it weaves down the road behind you trying to topple your bike. One of the guys that came on the Ontario trip with us had exactly this happen to his trailer but his 18 wheeler driving experience helped him out trememdously. When something like this happens you must remain calm, drive smoothly and gently and then get slowed down enough so that you can reach a safe place to park your Wing and trailer until help arrives.

OK, I've said enough about trailers and Wing safety now for my next gripe, trying to read a GPS safely while driving a motorcycle.............

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1984GL1200A wrote:
Well Goldwinger1984, got to test the limits of my brakes a little bit ago. I was on my way back home from a job interview and for some unknown reason, the car traveling in front of me all of a sudden jacked on the brakes and skidded to a stop. Needless to say, I did the same thing. My new EII's were really squalling. Don't know what the hell the person was thinking or doing but there was absolutely no reason to stop. Clear road, no stop lights for at least 4 more blocks, nocross traffic, no animals running into the road, just decided to test the brakes I guess. I was not "tailgating". There wasa good 4 to 5 car lengths between us. Bad part was, we were on a 2 lane road and there was approaching traffic so I could not use the other lane to go around.

I give the driver a good cussin' at the next intersection.



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[align=left]She just smiled at me and gave me one of these.:2finger:Some cage drivers just have absolutely no respect for others, especially motorcycle riders.[/align]
That's one of those occasions that you'd like to have side outlet flamethrower exhaust pipes so that you could roast those little hot dogs she had stuck out at you.

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