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Just spent the weekend getting the framework for a plan together for one helluva ride. 6,000 miles in 18 days this July/August. Most reservations are made. National parks are big with us - but we don't want to miss any - YOU GOTTA SEE IT's... If you CLICKY HERE:http://ndnrdr.com/images/20090727NorthwestVacation/Itinerary.pdf you can see how the itinerary shaping up.



Also, if I document it - I think there are at least 3 beginner "Iron Butt" cert rides in there somewhere – LOL



I’m asking for input from the local experts for anything you care to share. “That route looks great”; “Don’t Miss Going to the Sun Road”, “When in Astoria – eat at Joe’s Clam Shack” – whatever you thing a touring couple should experience.



I am not sure too much who is where – but from the maps and some posts it would be great to hear from at least:



UBarW, Oregonwinger – in Oregon



Cousin Jack, exavid, jluvs2dive – in Washington



Anyone else with experience riding in and around or knowledge of these areas would be great:



Coastal Oregon

Columbia River Valley

Coastal Washington

Olympic Peninsula

North Cascades NP

Glacier NP

Yellowstone NP

Sturgis SD



Any input is greatly appreciated.
 

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Hey Blackdog,

The trip looks great but, aren't the dates wrong on the spread sheet?
The sheet shows 2009 at the top, but 2008 in the date column.

Maybe I'll join you for some of the ride. No way I could do it all.
Can't leave work for that long. :shakehead:
 

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Oops my bad - yep yer right the month and day are correct - but it is 2009. Musta been high on Christmas supper - pumpkin pie - mmmmmmmmmm :D!!! Thanks - I'll fix it on my report.
 

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Blackdog,

I've lived in numerous places on the west coast from Port Hueneme, Ca. to Coos Bay, Or. to Tacoma/Seattle WA. I've ridden most of the highways up here and I can tell you that you will really enjoy the Northwest.

For the trip around Crater Lake take some more time than you have planned and make the entire loop around the top. Its worth it if the snow has melted by then.:shock:

The trip from Crater Lake to Coos Bay goes through the countryside where I grew up in a logging family. Be careful of the log trucks, chip trucks & the deer. Highway 42 from Winston through Myrtle Point/Coquille and on to Coos Bay is great until you get into Coos county. Be careful after that, the road gets very twisty...:).

If you have the time in Coos Bay take the trip through Charleston down through Sunset Bay State park to Cape Arago State Park. Shore Acres along the way is a great Botanical Gardens. We often stay the night at Sunset Bay State Park Campground in their Yurts. Cheaper than a hotel room and very nice!! Reserve ahead of time.

When you leave the Coos Bay area and head north along the coast be careful. That time of year there is a very high amount of traffic along the coast and you will find yourself doing 40-45 mph behind Trailers/Motorhomes all the way up to Astoria. The traffic around Lincoln City is getting very bad now days since the Casino opened. If you like Cheese stop at the Tillamook Cheese Factory for the tour in Tillamook Or.

Going across the mouth of the Columbia river in Astoria can be tricky if the wind is blowing sideways across the bridge.

The Columbia River Gorge is beautiful, make sure you take the Scenic Route that takes you up to the lookout so you can see the Gorge from above...just breathtaking. Depending on the rainfall in early July Multnoma Falls may not be at its peak when you get there. If you don't have any walking problems I recommend taking the hike to the top. It takes awhile but it is again worth it. There are many more waterfalls along the Gorge and each one is usually a short hike from the parking areas.

I see you will be missing the whole Olympic National Park which is usually a must see. But you are making up for part of it by going through Deception Pass State Park.

Route 20 is very beautiful that time of year. Washington typically gets very little rain during the end of July and the beginning of August. The route is also referred to as the North American Alps Highway. Take your time, you'll be rubbernecking you way along so be careful of the trailers and motorhomes. Once you get past Winthrop you will be on the dry side of the Cascades. That time of year the temperature gets to 100+ along your route. Take plenty of water and you may want to start very early in the morning to avoid the heat.

I went to High School in Anaconda Montana and had a girlfriend who worked at the Apgar Horse Corral in Glacier. I have many pleasant memories of Glacier including the trips my wife and I have made through the Park. The trip up the Going to the Sun Highway is great just look out for construction and water on the road at unexpected times. If you have vertigo you might want to stay closer to the center of the road, again watch out for the other Vacationers because they will not be looking out for you. Logan Pass can be a bit chilly even on a hot day down at the lake.

As far as yellowstone goes you probably already have enough info on it.... That time of year the average speed is quite slow, but since you are on a bike the parking is usually pretty good. Stay away from the animals!!

Since you are going to Sturgis make sure you visit Mt. Rushmore and take Alt. 16 out of the park. The 360 degree corners and great views of the mountain through the bridges/tunnels is not to be missed.

Your trip through Salt Lake and Reno will be very hot. Make sure to start early (5:30) and stop early (1:30) to avoid the heat in the afternoon. Depending on your route you might want to take a 1 1/2 gallon gas can with you just in case you get between stops and are low on fuel.

You might even consider going through Denver instead and out I 70 so you can visit Arches National Park/ Canyon lands National Park/ Moab Utah. It was on our way from Dodge City Kansas to Moab that we met Winger77 for the first time.

The Lake Tahoe area is also a beautiful area to visit just be careful of the traffic.

Enjoy your trip. I've taken many great pictures of the areas your going to be visiting so I know you will definately have many wonderful memories to take home.

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I really think you could spend weeks in the Northwest and not see it all. The ride along the coast itself is breathtaking. Lake Shasta is beautiful, low in water, but still so beautiful. Sense your so close you should detour to Vancouver, Canada. There is just so much to see you can't see it all, hmmmm, extend your vacation time and do a lot of zigzagging. :action:
 

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Blackdog,

I've lived in numerous places on the west coast from Port Hueneme, Ca. to Coos Bay, Or. to Tacoma/Seattle WA. I've ridden most of the highways up here and I can tell you that you will really enjoy the Northwest.

For the trip around Crater Lake take some more time than you have planned and make the entire loop around the top. Its worth it if the snow has melted by then.:shock:

The trip from Crater Lake to Coos Bay goes through the countryside where I grew up in a logging family. Be careful of the log trucks, chip trucks & the deer. Highway 42 from Winston through Myrtle Point/Coquille and on to Coos Bay is great until you get into Coos county. Be careful after that, the road gets very twisty...:).

If you have the time in Coos Bay take the trip through Charleston down through Sunset Bay State park to Cape Arago State Park. Shore Acres along the way is a great Botanical Gardens. We often stay the night at Sunset Bay State Park Campground in their Yurts. Cheaper than a hotel room and very nice!! Reserve ahead of time.

When you leave the Coos Bay area and head north along the coast be careful. That time of year there is a very high amount of traffic along the coast and you will find yourself doing 40-45 mph behind Trailers/Motorhomes all the way up to Astoria. The traffic around Lincoln City is getting very bad now days since the Casino opened. If you like Cheese stop at the Tillamook Cheese Factory for the tour in Tillamook Or.

Going across the mouth of the Columbia river in Astoria can be tricky if the wind is blowing sideways across the bridge.

The Columbia River Gorge is beautiful, make sure you take the Scenic Route that takes you up to the lookout so you can see the Gorge from above...just breathtaking. Depending on the rainfall in early July Multnoma Falls may not be at its peak when you get there. If you don't have any walking problems I recommend taking the hike to the top. It takes awhile but it is again worth it. There are many more waterfalls along the Gorge and each one is usually a short hike from the parking areas.

I see you will be missing the whole Olympic National Park which is usually a must see. But you are making up for part of it by going through Deception Pass State Park.

Route 20 is very beautiful that time of year. Washington typically gets very little rain during the end of July and the beginning of August. The route is also referred to as the North American Alps Highway. Take your time, you'll be rubbernecking you way along so be careful of the trailers and motorhomes. Once you get past Winthrop you will be on the dry side of the Cascades. That time of year the temperature gets to 100+ along your route. Take plenty of water and you may want to start very early in the morning to avoid the heat.

I went to High School in Anaconda Montana and had a girlfriend who worked at the Apgar Horse Corral in Glacier. I have many pleasant memories of Glacier including the trips my wife and I have made through the Park. The trip up the Going to the Sun Highway is great just look out for construction and water on the road at unexpected times. If you have vertigo you might want to stay closer to the center of the road, again watch out for the other Vacationers because they will not be looking out for you. Logan Pass can be a bit chilly even on a hot day down at the lake.

As far as yellowstone goes you probably already have enough info on it.... That time of year the average speed is quite slow, but since you are on a bike the parking is usually pretty good. Stay away from the animals!!

Since you are going to Sturgis make sure you visit Mt. Rushmore and take Alt. 16 out of the park. The 360 degree corners and great views of the mountain through the bridges/tunnels is not to be missed.

Your trip through Salt Lake and Reno will be very hot. Make sure to start early (5:30) and stop early (1:30) to avoid the heat in the afternoon. Depending on your route you might want to take a 1 1/2 gallon gas can with you just in case you get between stops and are low on fuel.

You might even consider going through Denver instead and out I 70 so you can visit Arches National Park/ Canyon lands National Park/ Moab Utah. It was on our way from Dodge City Kansas to Moab that we met Winger77 for the first time.

The Lake Tahoe area is also a beautiful area to visit just be careful of the traffic.

Enjoy your trip. I've taken many great pictures of the areas your going to be visiting so I know you will definately have many wonderful memories to take home.

Henry
Thanks Henry!! That is exactly the stuff I'm looking for. I am going to print it and take it with me to the mountains along with my atlases in about 15 minutes, The Yurts are a great ideas and we wanted to do it but they are booked solid - so we have had to make other plans.

It looks like - on the map - that Olympic does not have any "travel through" roads and you must go out the way you came in. Because we are doing so much I did not want to take that much time - should we - is it worth taking that time?



Thanks very much for your input - I really appreciate it.
 

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Boy oh' boy! What a trip! Would love to help you out, but Hanko and Spider Bob have pretty much said it all............

the only thing I could possibly add is this (which I have just mentioned in another post): When you get to Glacier NP, you arerelatively close to the Icefield Parkway, one of Canada's premier roadways....... If you can't work it into a loop, then even a one day trip up, and a one day trip down is hard to beat! The road is staggering in it's beauty, trust me!
 

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When the time gets closer, perhaps all us NWers can get together with you for a meet and greet somewhere. It would be fun.
 

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Hanko wrote:
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If you have the time in Coos Bay take the trip through Charleston down through Sunset Bay State park to Cape Arago State Park. Shore Acres along the way is a great Botanical Gardens. We often stay the night at Sunset Bay State Park Campground in their Yurts. Cheaper than a hotel room and very nice!! Reserve ahead of time.
Henry
The first thing that came to my mind as you ride the coast was in fact Cape Arago. Its really wonderful there... I am glad it got mentioned.

Also you will find that from Florence north there is a lot more traffic, as it is more touristy. Not much you can do about it, there arent really any alternate routes. Its not bad, but you just need to be patient.

When you get a bit further north, not quite as far as Seaside, you will see a turn to the left (as you go north) to Pacific City. If you can, head in there. HayStack rock is there. Pretty wonderful sight...
 

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When the time gets closer, perhaps all us NWers can get together with you for a meet and greet somewhere. It would be fun.
Count Red and me in!



Lovely photo, UbarW, absolutely stunning......
 

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Count me in on a meet-up too. :) Keep in touch so we can figure out how & where. I assume it will have to be on that Wednesday or Thursday, and I will need a little advanced notice to take the time off work. I'm not one of those retired types.:(:dude:

As for the Olympic forest, I highly recommend it. If you do a route from Kelso to Aberdeen to Forks to Port Angeles, you will see the route along the WA coast. Google maps puts that at 259 miles. The Olympic Hoh Rain Forest is a must see. Plan on spending a little while there and bring your wide angle camera.:) It's about 15 miles South of Forks and about 18 miles in off of the highway.

Kalaloch has some nice beaches and there is a huge cedar tree right off the road there. It's about 30 miles South of Forks.

La Push has some great beaches, especially if you like tide pooling. Beach 3 as I recall is the best for that,but you can ask the locals to be sure. It's been a few years since I've been there. It's about a 3/4 mile hike in from the road, but well worth it and the hike is beautiful too, through old growth forest. La Push is just North of Forks and then about 13 miles off of the main highway.

You will love Lake Crescent. It's gorgeous. Stop at the store on the West side of the lake and walk out on the dock and look into the crystal clear water. It's amazing. The lake is over 600 feet deep and divers go there all the time to do a deep dive. I dove it with a friend and went down to 130'. At 130' we could still see the surface clear as can be. :)

Watch out for Deer & Elk all along 101, especially near dusk and early morning.

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I didn't see how you are going to go through the Idaho Panhandle, but if you are taking I-90, you may want to consider a 40-ish mile side trip.

After you cross Lake Coeur d'Alene, take 97 south (Exit 22) along the lake until it t's up with 3. Then take 3 back up to I-90.

Or, if you don't have the time for a ride and just need dinner (They don't open until 4 or 5, I think), take the same exit north and follow the frontage road east for a mile or so until you get to the Wolf Lodge Inn Steakhouse. Awesome steaks there, you won't leave hungry!
 

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I didn't see how you are going to go through the Idaho Panhandle, but if you are taking I-90, you may want to consider a 40-ish mile side trip.

After you cross Lake Coeur d'Alene, take 97 south (Exit 22) along the lake until it t's up with 3. Then take 3 back up to I-90.

Or, if you don't have the time for a ride and just need dinner (They don't open until 4 or 5, I think), take the same exit north and follow the frontage road east for a mile or so until you get to the Wolf Lodge Inn Steakhouse. Awesome steaks there, you won't leave hungry!
30 or so years ago, I lived in one of the little cabins behind the Wolf Lodge Inn. Small world.
 

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Tubawinger wrote:
I didn't see how you are going to go through the Idaho Panhandle, but if you are taking I-90, you may want to consider a 40-ish mile side trip.

After you cross Lake Coeur d'Alene, take 97 south (Exit 22) along the lake until it t's up with 3. Then take 3 back up to I-90.

Or, if you don't have the time for a ride and just need dinner (They don't open until 4 or 5, I think), take the same exit north and follow the frontage road east for a mile or so until you get to the Wolf Lodge Inn Steakhouse. Awesome steaks there, you won't leave hungry!
30 or so years ago, I lived in one of the little cabins behind the Wolf Lodge Inn. Small world.
Then I bet you have been to Carlin Bay.
 

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See Jluvs2dive's answer to the question. He's is absolutely right on how great of a drive it is. But since you are already cutting things a bit thin you might want to make the Olympic Peninsula a trip for another time . If you do then I would also consider taking the Ferry from Port Angeles to Victoria (Vancouver Island, BC) and visiting Butchart Gardens.

I probably won't be making a long trip this summer but if you let us know when you'll be in the area for sure I would love to tag along for a few miles....

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See Jluvs2dive's answer to the question. He's is absolutely right on how great of a drive it is. But since you are already cutting things a bit thin you might want to make the Olympic Peninsula a trip for another time .
I mostly agree, but personally I would rather ride the WA coast without much time to spend on the beach, in the rain forest etc, than to ride up the other side of101 from Olympia, except for the part by hood canal. That part is very pretty. JMHO With only 259 miles that day, they'd have several hours for just messin' around too. Pretty easy day really.

Hanko, we otta meet up when the weather gets better. I always enjoy meeting other members and that would give me another excuse to ride out towards Eatonville. :)

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Then I bet you have been to Carlin Bay.
I grew up in Harrison. :jumper:
 

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I'd love to meet up when we get some time and better weather.

I just got back this afternoon from a work related trip down to Spirit Mountain Casino and was surprised how much snow is still on the ground toward Portland. It's all melted around my place.

I have a co-worker/buddy who lives in Port Orchard but unfortunately he doesn't ride...:(.

I love the area over there, I used to have to go to Bangor Sub Base to work on some equipment my previous company had and I would always go into Poulsbo after getting done with work.

The wife and I take several rides up and around Mt Rainier each year. Maybe you would like to accompany us one of these times??
 
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