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A co-worker of mine said he would sell me his 1999 Goldwing for $1500. It has 38K miles. Bike has never been dropped. The only issue is that it has not been started for the past 4 years. However, it has been stored inside his garage the entire time it was sitting. He figures it would cost around $1000 to have enough work done to it, to make it road-worthy. (Tires,brakes,carb work, etc..)


Does this seem like a reasonable deal? I have read that the 1500 is an amazing engine, so with the proper tune-up, could this bike still give me lots of miles? Does his estimate on cost to get it running seam reasonable? I am not even going to pretend that I have the mechanical knowledge to do the work myself, so it would have to be done by a dealer or someone that knew what they were doing.


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Tim
 

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Hard to pass up at tbat price, just tires alone can cost 250 up for the pair depending on what you buy. What shape are the plastics in? That engine hasn't been broken in yet, if it had been taken care off you should get many many miles out of it. I couldn't tell you what dealers charge but a lot can be done by you if you are mechanically inclined, lots of help here. Any chance of pictures of the bike? Not sure what you ride now but I loved my 1500 before I got hit and bike totalled
 

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I'd chance it, price is good. Can you do basic maintenance on a car/truck? If you can do that, get a good service manual and handle the basics, Seafoam in the fuel helps free up gunk in the carbs, change the oil and all the fluids and the fuel filter. These things come to mind so far.
 

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Hello Tim and Welcome . The 1500 is a wonderful machine. I can say what shop fees would be as they differ all over the country . The bigger problem is that stealerships dont generally seem to work on bike over 10 years old . You might be needing to find an independent shop.
Do you have any mechanical skills ? tires and brakes are not so complicated as carburetors. Was there a problem when/why the bike was parked? Was it parked filled with ethanol laced fuel?
Its possible it may run albeit poorly. Sometimes additives will slowly clean up the carbs in place with continued use and application of additives to the fuel. Sea Foam and Marvel Mystery Oil both come to mind. I have used Sea Foam with some satisfaction .
Oh yea my 93 GL 1500SE had 209K miles when I upgraded to an 1800.
 

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Hello Tim and Welcome . The 1500 is a wonderful machine. I can say what shop fees would be as they differ all over the country . The bigger problem is that stealerships dont generally seem to work on bike over 10 years old . You might be needing to find an independent shop.
Do you have any mechanical skills ? tires and brakes are not so complicated as carburetors. Was there a problem when/why the bike was parked? Was it parked filled with ethanol laced fuel?
Its possible it may run albeit poorly. Sometimes additives will slowly clean up the carbs in place with continued use and application of additives to the fuel. Sea Foam and Marvel Mystery Oil both come to mind. I have used Sea Foam with some satisfaction .
Oh yea my 93 GL 1500SE had 209K miles when I upgraded to an 1800.

No problems with the bike when it was parked. He had a pretty nasty leg break, which took him many months to recover from, and he said he just never rode it again. I can do basic maintenance myself, but I know I don't want to attempt anything with the carbs.


I haven't owned a bike for the past 5 years, but up until then I had a Kawasaki Vulcan 1500.
 

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Buy it.
With the knowledge and information available here you can do most of the work needed to get it going. Maybe take it to a shop for the carbs.
I went 6 years after selling my 1500, a 94SE , before I got my current 04.

First thing my wife said?

I liked the old one better!
 

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I'd go for it. If you never get it running you can probably get you money back selling parts.

I wouldn't do anything before you empty the tank and clean it out real well. Whatever is left in there is no longer gasoline and will just make matters worse if you suck it into the carbs.

And I wouldn't spend any money on brakes or tires, etc. until it's running good.
 

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I agree with Dennis,
get the bike,
pull the tank out, and clean it up really well.....


be sure all of the jell stuff is gone, and inspect it for any signs of rust...


report what you have, and then we will help you get it in order.
 

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That's a great price but there are so many costly things you will "have" to do. $1000 probably wont cover the costs. Another have to do item is the timing belts. Sitting so long will have caused them to "set" and could break any time if you try to run the engine before replacement. If you can't do the service yourself. Who knows the cost. ???
 

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That is a great price. Jump on it!

My 88 sat for 8 years before I got it. If he stored it with gas in the carbs, they will need to be pulled, everything pulled apart and cleaned. Sea Foam will not clean all the small passages. If is sat for a year, then Sea Foam normally works. I just picked up a snowmobile that sat for a year with gas in the carbs. It started and ran, but not past half throttle. I had Sea Foam in the tank and after a few miles, it would run past half throttle. After two tanks of fuel with Sea Foam, it still was not right. I pulled the carbs and found that the low speed jets were still plugged up some. After a good cleaning of all the jets and passages, the thing runs like a top now. Way better then before the cleaning. Save yourself the frustration. Just pull the carbs and clean them.

Pulling the fuel tank on a 1500 is a bit of work. The whole rear of the bike needs to come off. The tank comes out the back of the bike. Mine was full of rust and stuff that used to be gas. Got it cleaned out and it is good as new. Below is a photo with my tank removed.

I put about 1K back in the bike after I got it running. I did a lot more work then just getting it running. I did the extra work and changed all the filters, fuel lines, coolant hoses, timing belts, rebuilt the breaks and master cylinders and new tires. This was a So Cal high desert bike. The dry heat kills rubber parts, so that is why I went to the extent that I did. I did not want to be replacing things every year as they started to go bad.

As others have said, get a shop manual. Clean the carb, get it running, replace the timing belts, and then you can go from there on what other parts may need replacing.
 

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the tank can be cleaned " in place " without removing, if you do it the with Electrolysis method.


lots of threads on this forum about doing that.


http://www.rickswoodshopcreations.com/Miscellaneous/Rust_Removal.htm


https://www.goldwingfacts.com/forums/2-goldwing-technical-forum/384612-tank-cleaning-using-electrolysis-rust-prevention.html




this thread has a lot of pictures, and cautions about Polarity, which is critical.

https://www.goldwingfacts.com/forums/10-reference-faq-forum/360583-derusting-tank-electrolysis.html
 

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Where is it? LOL

Yes, it is still at the current owner's house. I do not own it yet. I am just in the information gathering stage right now. :laugh:

He is not in a big hurry to sell it, and I have the first right of refusal on it.
 

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The Electrolysis method would work fine leaving the tank in place.


Another method is (still leaving the tank in place) to empty the tank, remove the fuel pump so you can examine the inside REALLY good, then use a 4:1 mixture of water and vinegar (4 parts water/1 part vinegar). Let it set for 6-8 hrs, skimming the rust that comes up every hour or so. I used 20% acidity vinegar because I buy it online for killing weeds, (works great). Siphon it all out and wipe it down to dry it out immediately. Don't throw away the vinegar/water mixture, it'll come in handy killing weeds this summer. Then immediately after dry, put some Marvel Mystery Oil on a sponge and wipe the whole inside of the tank with a thin film of oil. The MMO mixes well with the new gasoline when you fill it up and lubes the fuel system nicely. You can also put a few ounces of Marine StaBil in when you fill up the tank the first time. The Marine Stabil will inhibit rust and will help the fuel system.
 

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If i was going to use Vinegar, I would use it straight....
unless there is something magic about mixing it with water????


it is already a water based product,,,,, you want the Acid base to pull the rust.


IMO, Electrolysis is the only way to go as it will pull every little speck of rust off the tank, AND the fuel level sensor components. Plus, it won't hurt any of the metal stuff.
 

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check the belts clean the carbs and tank should be good to go make sure the clutch and brakes work
 

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Pig in a poke.

You might come out thousands of $ to the good, or not. Only you can decide if you want to gamble the $1500. Keep in mind this is not an easy motorcycle to work on due to the extraordinary amount of effort it takes to get enough bodywork off and on to access almost anything for any reason. That was really my ONLY complaint with mine, as I'm a DIY sorta guy.

Worst case, you could likely part it out and recover your money. The 1500 series 'Wing is a fantastic touring motorcycle. I only sold mine because the weight was becoming a bit much for me to manage at slow speeds and stopping. Not the bike's fault :)

Best of luck...let us know how it works out!
 

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Thanks for all the help and advice. My friend has talked to some dealers and seeing what he can expect as a trade in, he told me that he would sell it to me for $1200. I talked to a couple of Honda shops, and to have them put 2 new tires on, clean both carbs (which includes cleaning out the gas tank) and flush all of the fluids, I would be looking at $1200 plus parts. The only thing I forgot to ask about was how much to replace the timing belt.

So it appears I can have a nice running bike for less than 3K investment. I went to his house to take a look at it, and cosmetically the bike looks great. It has been stored inside, and I could not see any sign of rodent damage anywhere.


He told me to take a week to research everything before I let him know my decision.
 
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