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Do you have to bring your Goldwing into a dealer to check your SWR's ? I can tell you right now that Radio shack is NOT an electronics Store anymore, but they would like to beyour Cell phone connection. Just don't ask them any hard questions. How many of you have a couple ofAutomotive AM Radio Antenna Jack Adaptors(Motorola)to a PL-259 CB coax? My SWR meters are standard CB meters. Looks like I mayhave to build a couple of adaptors or HOT WIRE a meter through the Honda Set-up. What is the quick and easy answer?Do you think I should justcut a normal CB coax in halfand add a Morotola antenna adaptor to each freshly cut end? I guess tht is the fastest way to do it.


Has anyone checked their SWR's? I'll bet the TOP TEN posters on this site have.



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I made a couple of adapters using a Ford 8" cable extender with a Motorola end on it. I cut the other end off and put a PL259 connector on it. Sierra Electronics also has the adapter cables pretty cheap as a kit. 12 bucks for the set.

I run separate cables for my antennas and don't use the splitter the 1100's use. I'm running a 5' Firestik and my SWR's are around 1:1.2 across all channels.

http://www.sierra-mc.com/proddetail.asp?prod=SIE-SWR12

 

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Thank you for your quick response. Might order a set just to be sure they are made right and then TUNE UP every Honda Goldwing I come across.
 

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Ferrarimx5 wrote:
Thank you for your quick response. Might order a set just to be sure they are made right and then TUNE UP every Honda Goldwing I come across.
Hmmm i see a trip to the beach???
 

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I'm anewer CB user and I got tell you I'm pretty skeptical about SWR metering. Disclaimer: I have absolutely zero technical expertise in this area. Everybody (Goldwing) I asked said they never metered their system and everything works well. I can't figure why checking SWRwould be so important if Hondanever mentions it in their in their instructions. Am I just naive?
 

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I'm anewer CB user and I got tell you I'm pretty skeptical about SWR metering. Disclaimer: I have absolutely zero technical expertise in this area. Everybody (Goldwing) I asked said they never metered their system and everything works well. I can't figure why checking SWRwould be so important if Hondanever mentions it in their in their instructions. Am I just naive?
I'm sure Honda adjust them at the factory most of the times. Also as long as most folks can transmit and receive up to about 3 miles their happy with it and never have it checked.

Well I'm not one of those happy people. I was into cb's long before I got into bikes and I always want my equipment operating at it's peak performance. Properly setting the SWR's goes a long way to the life span of a cb and also so it doesn't get to high and burn out the transmit finals. The lest resistance from the antenna feeding back to the radio, the better it works and the range is at it's max potential.

Also the Hondas use a single antenna feeding into a splitter for both the am/fm radio and the cb, not the best setup if you're serious about having every thing working at it's peak, hence the reason I run separate antennas.

 

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The big deal with SWR is that if not adjusted correctly it could damage the radio. If you are only receiving a signal, like with your AM/FM radio, you can use an old coat hanger as an antenna.

However, if you want to transmit, the antenna becomes VERY important. The radio is generating a signal, and if that signal isn't properly carried out it can burn out the transmitter very quickly.

Ever been in a group and notice that some people seem to come through louder and clearer than others? They have a lower Standing Wave Ratio.

Perfect SWR is 1. That means (in very simple terms, not a highly technical explanation) that for every 1 watt of power from the transmitter, 1 watt of signal gets out.

Mine is about 1.2 across the board, that means that for every 1.2 watts of power from the transmitter, 1 watt of signal gets out the antenna. SWR of 3 or above will damage the transmitter, sometimes very quickly.

Michael is right, the setup from factory on most of these bikes is not ideal. The 1800 uses separate antennas, better but it means that the radio antenna absorbs some of the CB signal, so it's still not perfect.

Look at the picture of Michael's bike. His CB antenna is considerably higher, likely it's a top loaded antenna. His setup gets less signal absorbed by the radio antenna and you can probably hear him from a lot further away than the typical factory setup.
 

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Yeppers, last time I checked it I was heard 15 miles away with a strong signal. Now I just need to send the cb to Sierra Electronics as the receive side is blown. Can't hear anyone over 1/2 mile away.
 

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The biggest reason Honda doesn't talk about it is because the settings from the factory (or dealer) on these bikes is good enough to not damage the radio and to talk to everyone in a group that's all together. Most riders could care less if someone 10 miles away can hear them as long as they reach the 1/4 mile from the back of the group to the front of the group. Works fine until you get separated from the group for any reason.

And then there are those people like me (and apparently Michael) who just want everything to work as well as it can for the sake of doing it. I'm considering adding another antenna to separate mine and going to a firestik for the CB. I've found that my (aftermarket) radio gets passable reception with just the 3 foot extension cable I have on it to reach my splitter, and most of the time I listen to the MP3 player anyway. I may just forego a radio antenna at all and just go with a high quality CB antenna.
 

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Hey, Michael, since you are the official forum toolmaster why don't you check into adding an SWR meter to the tool kit?
 

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Hey, Michael, since you are the official forum toolmaster why don't you check into adding an SWR meter to the tool kit?
I just checked Ebay and found a few meters that are the same brand name and design, a couple that are NIB and have the printed instructions with them. They are SWR/Field strength meters.

In order to add these to the tool program would also require having the correct adapter cables to send out with them and we can't guarantee the results people would get doing this on their own or be responsible for damage to their systems if they do it wrong.

Now I wouldn't mind doing it for a group like say at a M&G but not as part of the tool loaner program.
 

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Hint: remove the flags, balls or other decorations from your CB antennas. It will affect SWR.
 

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That's a 5' FireStik I have on there with a fold down adapter so I can put the bike cover on without cutting a hole in it. It is top loaded as well. If you look hard enough at that pic you can see the same antenna on my truck in the background.
 
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