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I bought a new tire from Bike Bandit, I took it to a friend who runs a HD repair shop.I picked it up and went to install and noticed the tread appeared to be backwards. I checked and rechecked and the arrow was in the right direction. Has anyone noticed this on their commander 2s? Thanks, Charlie
 

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Commander II are serving me well.

These things shed water so well, so far every time I've hit water running over the road during a flash flood they hold.... No hydroplaning...

Smooth ride

Mileage.......not sure yet....
 

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Try to envision the tread at the bottom where it touches the road. Are the channels positioned to divert water away to the rear of the bike?

Just a thought.

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Rayjoe, This is what I did not understand, The tread actually diverts the water to the center of the tire. I went back to my friends shop that changed it for me, Lo and behold there was three HDs that had the same tire and the tread was to me backwards. I owner said he had 7000 miles on it and it done great! {maybe 50% tread left] I used to THINK old school was cool, I went back and read their reviews and only one said that the tread Appeared to be backwards.All of the others was 5 stars. I am going to put this badboy on today and will keep us posted, Thanks for all of replies. Thanks Charlie
 

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Charlie,

I looked up a picture of the Commander tire online. As the tire rolls forward water is diverted to the outside of the tire, not the center. Have a friend ride the bike slowly thru a puddle and watch the flow of the water.

Looks like a good tire to me. I might try them myself next time.

Rayjoe
 

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If you look at this page, most of the tires shown have the front tire with grooves pointing up and on the rear, grooves pointing down.

http://www.bikebandit.com/tires-tubes/1987-honda-gold-wing-interstate-gl1200i-motorcycle-tires/t11?m=151649

There are a couple that seem to show no direction and the Shinko 230 which does it backwards. The Pirelli also has the front down facing but the rear sort of goes both ways.

Bottom line is; it probably is no more than a fad. Today's "look". Like black wheels and "Transformer" styled bikes.
 

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as long as it carries water to the sides where it can be evacuated- thats what tire design is about.
Sometimes ideas from the 1950s are still the best, just improved with CAD technolgy
 

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Folks, This is not the case on this tire, The tread pattern IS a-- backwards, I am open to others who has this tire, I am not a tire tech, But sure am hoping others who has this tire will chime in. Again Thanks for the replys, Charlie
 

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Folks, This is not the case on this tire, The tread pattern IS a-- backwards, I am open to others who has this tire, I am not a tire tech, But sure am hoping others who has this tire will chime in. Again Thanks for the replys, Charlie

Now, I just want to be clear, here. Your contention is that Michelin developed and released a tire with a defective tread pattern? Or, is yours a one-off defective tire?
 

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Folks, This is not the case on this tire, The tread pattern IS a-- backwards, I am open to others who has this tire, I am not a tire tech, But sure am hoping others who has this tire will chime in. Again Thanks for the replys, Charlie
I have a set of commander II's on my bike.

I'd like to see a picture with the tread and the arrow.






If I think about it I may post a picture of mine.
 

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I think that I would prefer to mount the tire so that the water shedding sipes are in the proper direction, forcing water away from the center of the tire.
 

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Folks in post,the 3 HDs that had the same tire on them and the tread pattern was pushing the water inwards. If you go to Bike Bandit site and click on a front tire 110/90/19 tire and go to the reviews the first one says "The tread pattern appears to be backwards" I called them and talked to a nice fellow named John. He told me that all he does is sells them. There is no tech line at that site for tires. Jeff, how is your tread pattern? John, If I reverse the tire, Would the internal plys be backward instead of for braking? I bought this tire to put on the trike that I have. I will take pictures and try to post, Also when I get time, will call Michelin tech line. Folks, I really want to Thank You for all of the replies. All we want is a tire that is safe for Granny and I without any thoughts in my mind at 70 MPH! again Thanks Charlie
 

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Good grief! You are saying that Michelin has released a dangerous tire.

Get a grip Charlie. There is no way their engineers/customer relations/legal department, would let that happen. And again, if you look at the other tires out there, the majority have what you are calling backwards tread.
 

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Just for reference.



Refer to the rotation arrow branding on the tire's sidewall.

The arrow indicates the direction in which the tire should turn.
 

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If there is an arrow there, go with the arrow.

Think of it this way, what percentage of the total time/miles are spent with that tire under severe braking force?

I rest my case, put it on so that the rain sipes force the water away from the tire's center so it won't hydroplane.
 

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Front tire is wrong 130/90 16
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Rear is right 150/90 15
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They are still good tires.

Guess I've had my front one backwards all this time and did not realize it :D
 

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Charlie in nc my advice is you install the tire so water is pushed away from the center line.

If you want to be the squeaky wheel let us know what transpires.
 
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