Continuing starting problems

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Graham B

Discussion Starter · Jun 24, 2005

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Thestory so farin this sorry tale.

The problem is that when hot, the starter motor won't turn the engine. It tries but just hasn't got the umph! So (and some of this was for other reasons) I've;

Bought a new battery.
Serviced the existing starter motor.
Changed the starter clutch.
Changed the lead from the solenoid to the starter.
Checked the earth lead and cleaned up the contacts.
Bought a GL1000 starter motor and serviced it.
Tried a spare solenoid.
Started to drink heavily.

The motor cranks the engine like there's no tomorrow when the engines cold.

So, before I turn into a drunk, where to now?

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Redwing

· #21 · Oct 8, 2005

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Hello wingmedic :waving:Welcome to the best Goldwing Forum on the net. :clapper:

One of "Gurus" will soon help you out with your problem. Just hang on there for a few moments. :jumper:

:leprechaun::18red::leprechaun:

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Graham B

Discussion Starter · #22 · Oct 8, 2005

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I can say that the cause of the problem has been identified as the manual advance - I just can't get to it at the moment.

The way I get around it is to turn the engine kill switch off. Even when hot the engine will spin with no trouble at all. When it's spinning simply click the kill switch on and the engine bursts into life.

Works 100% of the time - just not sure how long the kill switch will last :?

Good luck.

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exavid

· #23 · Oct 8, 2005

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Not a manual advance, I think you're referring to the vacuum advance not dropping back, stuck in the advanced position. That sure would do it.

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Graham B

Discussion Starter · #24 · Oct 9, 2005

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exavid wrote:

Not a manual advance, I think you're referring to the vacuum advance not dropping back, stuck in the advanced position. That sure would do it.

Sorry, I mean the manual advance. There are two elements to the unit. Haynes manual ATU section page 111, section 5 point 2 refers.

I didn't know about it until Iwas shownit on a dud engine out of it's frame.

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exavid

· #25 · Oct 9, 2005

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The only mechanical advance I know of on the GL1100 is at the rear of the engine. There is the vacuum advance and underneath it there is the centrifugal advance.

You can see the diaphragm housing on the top rear right of the back cover plate. There are three screws that hold the cover on the advance. An application of a bit of vacuum on the vacuum diaphragm with the cover off will show if the vacuum diaphragm can move the pickup coil mounting plate. With no vacuum it should be in it's most counterclockwise position. With some applied vacuum it should move clockwise. On the bike I'm currently working on the backing plate was stuck and required some exercising and a bit of lube free things up.

If you remove the vacuum advance housing you'll find the centrifugal advance. If that's sticking it will keep the spark too advanced and make the starting hard.

One thing I noticed when in there is that the right hand pulser coil is pretty close to the wall of the housing and the coil wire was rubbing on the wall. It turned out that the wire had slipped out of the little clip just below the coil and the slack was allowing the wire to touch the wall. Pulling the wire down carefully, inserting it back into the clip and judiciously squeezing the clip a bit got the necessary clearance to prevent wearing the insulation through.

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Graham B

Discussion Starter · #26 · Oct 10, 2005

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That's the one. It's a right b(*&^r to get at with the engine in the frame. Dead easy when it's out :?

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