Defective fuel filter

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ding dong

Discussion Starter · Sep 18, 2009

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Laborday weekend we went to Eureka Springs for the 5th annual MWM&G. Week before we left I replaced the fuel filter. EMGO brand which I have always used.4 days later my 76 started running bad. Rough and too lean. Pulled carbs and went through them. Found the passage through the plenum between carbs partially blocked. Used compressed air to blow out. Didn'tsee anything though. On the way to Arkansas the bike started running rough again. While there I pulled the carbs again and found tiny bits of what looked likeorange plastic??? Bike ran ok through the weekend but on the way home started running rough again. Today I pulled the fuel filter and took it apart. This is what I found. Filter element was totally loose and the glue disintegrated. I have always used a smallsecondary filter installedbefore the fuel pump but removed it thinking that it may be causing the problem. It's going back in now. New filter doesn't mean it's good.

Now I have to pull carbs again.:XOh well!

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kyboy67

· #2 · Sep 18, 2009

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Seems to happen more and more nowadays with this new so called quality stuff thats avaliable..........

84GrayWing

· #3 · Sep 18, 2009

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Hey I'll bet that's all that's wrong with my 1100. Just replace that and I'll be running like new. But seriously when I ran inline filters on my carburated vehicles I always used the see through glass with replaceable elements. That was just my preference.

Jeff

lopeha

· #4 · Sep 18, 2009

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Wow Tom, who'd a thunk it. Maybe we should start looking for a better fuel filter for our beasties. BTW, I'm doing a swap to an electric fuel pump this weekend. Plan to do a thread on the install. I'll start looking for a high quality filter now, Andy.

DaveO430

· #5 · Sep 19, 2009

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Just get the screw together filters like Jeff mentioned, work good and a lot prettier.

Wolfman

· #6 · Sep 19, 2009

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On my 1200 I added a second filter inline. I guess it wouldn't help much if the second filter were falling apart and it was causing the debris......

Who makes the Honda brand fuel filter? I needed one the other day, and I was in the shop, Ouch it was expensive. If it is seriously good Honda quality, it would be worthwhile, but if Honda subs it out to some cheap manufacturer in China, then it wouldn't be.

newbiker

· #7 · Sep 19, 2009

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I am going to install second filter between fuel pump and carbs.
Filter must be made off clear plastic and be in visible place! You have learned that hard way.
Ask NAPA about small filter for $2 made in Germany. You will like it.

Bike...and Dennis

· #8 · Sep 19, 2009

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I've never had an OEM fail on me. Yeah they are spendy, but they last 50k miles. Even for me that's 4 years. For most riders50k is over 10 years. And notneeding to pull the carbs and clean them every other ride has to be worth something.

Dadoo

· #9 · Sep 19, 2009

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I replaced the head gaskets for a guy who had an ad in Craigs list, looking for GL1100 help. After The job was finished, I started the engine and it ran fine for a few minutes. Then cylinders would start misfiring and then quit altogether and the motor died. I checked spark and spark plugs. everything was OK. Then I pulled the carbs apart and found what looked like old glue or ? After cleaning and reinstalling the carbs I checked the filter. The element was loose from the body and gunk was flowing into the carbs. That gunk was the adhesive that holds the filter together. I was shocked and thought it was an isolated incident. The filter was an EMGO. I will look for a different brand for the future.

John

newbiker

· #10 · Sep 19, 2009

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lopeha wrote: "I'm doing a swap to an electric fuel pump this weekend"

Are you going to install aftermarket or pump from 84?
I will probably install aftermarket electric on my 75.
Make sure feed it from run switch with relay so when you stop engine, pump stops too.
Post your diagram, please.

k1w1t1m

· #11 · Sep 19, 2009

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I used a filter that can be cleaned. They can be found in the Wal-Mart marine section in sporting goods for about $10.

phatty of 2

· #12 · Sep 19, 2009

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any one got a part # for the screw in filter or where to get one or 2 ? and if you put a filter in before and after the pump do you use the same filters or use different

i used one of those filters and it might explain the s#$%%y running bike

mmonsterbuck

· #13 · Sep 21, 2009

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been there, SAME THING, i use a metal filter now, u can see through it, can take it apart to put new cartridge in

ding dong

Discussion Starter · #14 · Sep 22, 2009

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Bought filter for the 1500 at the same time as the defective 1000 filter. Pulled it off and opened it up yesterday. Same problem just not as bad yet. Will never buy EMGO filters again. E-mailed pictures to EMGO but no response as of yet. Won't hold my breath.

Dancinbear

· #15 · Sep 22, 2009

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Clear plastic filters for $1.85 at OReilly Auto. 17,000 miles and running strong. fasten to the OEM filter bracket with a zip tie.

ding dong

Discussion Starter · #16 · Sep 23, 2009

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I have posted this info on other sites and found there are many others reporting this same problem. This is not an isolated incident.

I Went with a Spectre #2369 filter from Auto Zone. $9.95. Replacable screen element. Glass tube with chrome ends that unscrew. No glue! Will see how it works.

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