[NevadaDave]

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See this:
http://www.cmsnl.com/news/what-a-155-mph-motorcycle-crash-looks-like_news176.html

I'm not an expert in forensics, but that bike just doesn't look smashed up enough to have been going 155 mph. I would expect that it would have been wadded into a ball. I got an email from a friend in which the text claimed that the bike was going 85 mph - maybe closer to the truth.
Does anyone know any more about this/any comments? It's a sad situation, but I wonder how accurate the story is. I believe that things like this are sometimes "embellished" to make a point.

 

[agnogel]

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I would say there correct he fliped the car in the impact i know you cant see 150mph crash on the car but he drove it rght through the door and the floor also they found the rider and the driver in the car also may they rest in peace, Its also a unique crash as you would not have had a lot of debiry scattered around the crash scean

 

[dannyeod]

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As a Police officer and seeing alot of crashes, I would say 155mph is correct. I didn't work inthe traffic division andI'm not an expert. I don't think an 85mph accident wouldhave that type of damage, just my guess.

 

[NevadaDave]

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Well.. I don't have a lot of experience running into cars, but the one time I did (1976 Honda CB750F, car pulled out in front of me from a stop sign) I hit it at maybe 15-20 mph - I was hard on the brakes. The front end was pretty much trashed, along with the handlebar-mount fairing.
Since impact energy is the square of the speed ratio:
155/20 = 7.75, 7.75^2 = 60 times the impact energy (of my 20 mph crash) - that bike should have been wadded into a ball with that much kinetic energy.
I'm sure that there may be mitigating factors - that's why I thought I'd ask on the forum & see what the pro's think!

 

[Wolfman]

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Holy crap... I don't know, but that motorcycle was inside the car. I mean it was really inside the car and trying to come out the other side.


It seems to me that with most accidents, things tend to bounce off each other. There had to be a lot of energy for that kind of pentration.

It also seems to me that with the shock factor intention of this display, if they wanted to exaggerate, they would have said a lower speed instead of a higher speed. Think about it this way: That kind of damage at 155 mph... OMG that driver was absolutly insane, look what he caused.On the other hand: That kind of damage at 85 mph... OMG motorcycles are just missles they are too dangerous to be on the same roads as cars and should be banned altogether.

 

[CaptainMidnight85]

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I'm no expert either, but I believe it. 155mph, who knows.... I'm certain the "scene" as pictured was reassembled.Some aspectsmay have beenaltered for affect.

Stockholm, Sweden is the hometo GhostRider fame, and any deterence they can come up with, I'm sure they'll use.

 

[Guest]

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Sad Very Sad.
I hate that the people in the car got killed.
If the rider wanted to kill himself he should have done it by himself. Not put inocent people at risk.

 

[ccsailor]

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Damn Hondas for being so fast But an idiot pilot sorry he took the cage people with him I have zero sypathy for crotch rocket morons.. Love them in fact ( donors)
Any way entirely plausable as a lot of energy would have been dissipated by the car flipping over

 

[MDKramer]

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I had the unfortunate experience one night of witnessing exactly what happens when a crotch rocket, being chased by the police, t-bones a compact car such as that at around 90mph.

The bike shoved the whole side of the car in to about the console, but did not penetrate the door or column. The forks were bent and the front wheel was against the bottom of the engine. The tank was crumpled on both ends. The rear from the rider's crotch slamming into it, the front from impacting the triple tree...Everything below the tank, and behind the engine still looked like a motorcycle.

The driver, and PASSENGER went over the top of the car, and landed approximately 100ft beyond the intersection and then slid for what seemed like forever. They lived, but I'm sure they wished they hadn't.

The cop that was chasing the bike narrowly missed the wreckage while trying to haul it down and dodge the flying debris, left the street, up through a front yard, and came to a rest with his grill roughly 4' into someone's living room.

This happened right in front of me at a 4-way stop sign. I had my windows down because it was a nice night, I heard the bike winding up, I heard the sirens following, I looked left and saw them coming...then I saw the car start to pull into the intersection. I hit the horn while screaming at the windshield "STOP YOU IDIOT!"

The driver of the car had their windows up, stereo up, and didn't hear the siren, horn, or me screaming apparently. I don't think the guy on the bike even had time to THINK "oh s**t" before he hit.

I'm with Captain Midnight on this one...that bike penetrated the door, and took out the A column on the way through...I'd say 155 is about right.

 

[DougW]

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It seems I first saw that car and bike a couple of years ago and the story attached to it was the same, 155 MPH. Usually if those stories are internet legends they change over time but this is the same as I heard it before.

 

[Popeye]

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I've seen similar; physics get strange with momentum. It reminds me of that famous pic of the paper straw embedded in a tree trunk by a tornado.



Speed must have been caught on cop's radar. A sad story.

 

[NevadaDave]

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Wow! OK, I'm convinced - no matter how fast the guy was going, he was a fool. What frustrates me the most about this is that things such as this are too common. I remember many years ago riding with a friend from work. He had a 500 Suzuki twin, and I had my 750F. As we went up a windy mountain road, he was passing cars in curves, sometimes 2 or 3 at a time, and he couldn't understand why I wasn't keeping up with him. Another co-worker had a friend with a first-generation Goldwing who would lane-split at 80-90 mph, and was eventually killed doing this.
My son worked for a time as an ICU nurse in Reno, and had a bag-full of stories about the motorcyclists they brought in, often drunk, but typically damaged from "failure to negotiate a curve" injuries.

 

[Wolfman]

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NevadaDave wrote:

What frustrates me the most about this is that things such as this are too common.

Amen brother.