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Anyone have experience with Dyna Beads they would like to share? Pro, Con, indifferent ?? The product looks like it might be a good thing to use.

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It sounds like it would be advantageous to do this. But, in asking my tire guy what he thought, it was "you don't need them" His prospective: it makes it harder to do a repair as not all places carry the beads. He has had to clean out the beads before a repair. The ones that came out where clumping together because of moisture.

I don't know the answer, but I have both motorcycles and off road vehicles and I would rather use the weights as they are easier to replace than find the beads when you need them. But then I'm an old dog too.:action:
 

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I swapped balance weights for dyna beads over a year ago. I will not return to using weights.
 

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SpiderBob wrote:
It sounds like it would be advantageous to do this. But, in asking my tire guy what he thought, it was "you don't need them" His prospective: it makes it harder to do a repair as not all places carry the beads. He has had to clean out the beads before a repair. The ones that came out where clumping together because of moisture.

I don't know the answer, but I have both motorcycles and off road vehicles and I would rather use the weights as they are easier to replace than find the beads when you need them. But then I'm an old dog too.:action:
Have no experience with the Beads but did with Ride-On and a tire repair using the external cord method. The cord slowly worked itself out of the hole because of very poor adhesion to the hole wall. The Beads may do the same, I just don't know.



The front has the Ride-On with over 23,000 on it. It's do for a change out after the Michigan trip next week. I will not put the Ride-On back in.



Because I travel solo much of the time and every day I rely on the cord patch. Also, I am a dark sider with the run flat, but that's another story.



Just my 02 worth.



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Pro: Everything, but...

Con: You have to rush in a little air before you check your tire pressure. The beads have a habit of getting hung up in the valve stem.

Another thing - you can recycle them and use them again and again.
 

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I see where there is another post with most of the comments in favor of the beads. I was thinking of leaving the weights on the wheels and put the beads in also. The way the product is described it will "rebalance" the wheel every time it spins. The cost seems low (on wingnuts.com)so if I have nothing to lose I will try them and report back to the group.

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my local shop has ordered some in and i am waiting for them as well, hopefully i will have some this week and will start testing them.

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Well, I am on my 4th set of tires with 28600 miles on the clock.:p The first 3 sets were Dunlops and balanced with lead weights. All 3 sets cupped and milage per set ranged from 6000 to 9000 miles. :? My 4th set of tires are Bridgestones and are loaded with 2 oz. of Dyna Beads per tire. :cool:Air pressure is 36 psi front and 41 psi rear. Current milage on these tires is 5000 miles. There is no sign of cupping yet and these Stones are the BEST set of tires I have ever had. :dude:The transition from leftto right and right to left in the twisties is smooth as silk.They stick like glue in the corners. Makes you want to try and scrap the pegs.:cheeky1: Oh, and at 120 mph its still smooth.(Not recommended)As far as wobble. Sometimes I get low speed wobble and sometimes I don't. :? I am working on a theory that the wobble may be caused by road conditions or a drag of the rear brake. But for now its only a theory and I need more time to figure it out what actually is causing it. My suggestion is try the Stones with the Dyna Beads. You just might say the same thing I did. WOW!:D Believe me, my next set of tires will be the Stones. I don't need to experiment with any other tires anymore for now.
 

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A number of years ago I had the chance to test the beads on light duty trucks and vans and the test proved that the beads were not worth the money paid for them. Regular tire balancing with weights proved to be much better for the tires. I would never use the beads in my motorcycle as there are just too many things that can go wrong with them and you can't see the problems from the outside of the tire. Things like clumping, breakage of the beads and the beads sticking all in one spot and causing an imbalance. IMHO the beads are just a fad/scam that takes advantage of guys who don't know any better.



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Disagree with Vic on that one, synthetic oil was a scam too, 25 years ago. I have used the "beads" for years now and gotten better tread life and tire life from them. Sorry man, and not just with my bike, had a 4X4 that had insane tires on it, had to have the tires "shaved" to balance them. The beads fixed them. Bike shops hate them because they can't pinch you for 15.00 to balance your tires. Go figure..............
 

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Synthetic oil is still a scam, a very well marketed one. I have seen many synthetic oil users go back to regular oil, including myself,because the synthetic oil caused problems. I had the good fortune to be in charge of a fleet of 50 trucks and I searched high and low to find ways to save costs while maintaining best performance and reliabilityand I can tell you straight out that tire beads and synthetic oils were not part of the program after exhaustive testing was performed with them. IMHO opinion there's a sucker born every minute and slick marketing programs can really draw them out of the woodwork. You go ahead and use whatever product you want but don't try to tell me that something is good when scientifically I have proven something is bad or is just another gimmick.



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I like the idea of scientific testing, and i can be very objective. so here's what i am going to do. I know for a fact I am buying dynabeads this week. I recently, as of saturday bought a new bridgestone spitfire for my front. and after balancing it is still bouncing more than i like. so I am going to mount a semi ridged, but flexible rod down my fork and attach temporarily to my bottom fork. and attach to a hand counter . i drive the same road every day, so i will get some average counts of how much this tire is moving. then i will do the same after i put dynabeads. this will tell me the realities of the product. if it does as stated the count should be significantly lower with dynabeads.

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... My only thought would be that when adding air to the tire, that it be only from a hose that had a moisture filter on it.

Compressing air produces a lot of water vapor.
 

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I've used them on my current wing through 2 sets of tires and on my previous Shadow. I'll continue to use them. They constantly balance the tire so it's like a getting a balance everytime you roll. I lost a rear wheel weight and never knew it till it ruined my Avon Venom WWW. So now I don't worry about slinging a weight on a trip. YOu can also just buy the 2oz for $3.45 each and pour them in when changing a tire. To balance a tire with lead they want $5-$10 each and thats if they even have a balance machine(our small town don't). I'm fixing to order another rear and I'll be getting a replacement pack. The so called applicator is just a 4oz bottle with about 2" clear tube that fits over the valve stem. Try'em, you might like them, I do.

I noticed alot of Harley's are using them too. Nothing worse than spending mega bucks on laser cut or custom rims and crimping on 2-3oz of ugly grey weights worth a few cents on a $15k bike.
 

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Bschofield wrote:
I like the idea of scientific testing, and i can be very objective. so here's what i am going to do. I know for a fact I am buying dynabeads this week. I recently, as of saturday bought a new bridgestone spitfire for my front. and after balancing it is still bouncing more than i like. so I am going to mount a semi ridged, but flexible rod down my fork and attach temporarily to my bottom fork. and attach to a hand counter . i drive the same road every day, so i will get some average counts of how much this tire is moving. then i will do the same after i put dynabeads. this will tell me the realities of the product. if it does as stated the count should be significantly lower with dynabeads.

Barry
To make the test truly scientific you would have to drive your bike over the exact same place on theroad at the same temperature each time to end up with valid test samples otherwise different bumps, cracks, holes andwarm soft rubber and hard cold rubberwill skew the test comparison. Might be better if you drove thewheel/tire with an electric motor for the comparison.



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I switch to Dyna Beads and love them... I too had cupping issues with my front tire... Now the ride is smooth as silk....



I would recommend them.
 

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Hey Vic, your verbal jousting with the other members on this "bead" subject has been entertaining and informative, but what the heck is a FISH carb??????????:?:?:?
 

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http://www.mikebrownsolutions.com/bccfish.htm It was just another gimmick that sounded great in theory. Many people believed in the concept and would steadfastly argue with anyone that they actually got 100 MPG because the advertising said so. Things like this come along every day and there are always suckers that fall for the advertising promotion. It doesn't take a mechanic like me with 40 years experience to figure out that the advertising is B.S. All people have to do is be logical and not so passionate and they will see the truth.



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