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After riding my very faithful07 GL1800 (The Beast)to almost 30,000 miles, I would like to review the fork upgrades available for the 1800. Traxxion and Race Tech are two names that have been mentioned on this siteonce or twice. If I understand theissue correctly, the forks are suffering from poor design. So I am on a witch hunt to to see what upgradesmight be suitable for my kind of riding.Really could use some good conversation here.

Are drain plugs installed on the forks or is the oil drained only by disassembling and up ending? If no drain plugs,has anyone drilled and tapped for plugs? Is this possible? (Most of my dirt bikes had drain plugs).

Thanks for your help,

Longboater,
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I don't know what kind of riding you do but I rise twisty mountain roads mostly and I don't see a problem with the forks, I do want a better rear shock though, the rebound damping on the stock shock doesn't suite me.
For draining the forks you can pull the axle and then the screw in the bottom that holds the forks together then after letting them drain put the screw back in and remove the caps and refill them. Measure what you drain out of each one and put the same amount back in. I find that a 15 or 20wt. oil improves the ride and handling.
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Longboater,



If you are servicing your forks, I would take them off the bike so you can really clean them out. They get pretty gucky, especially the left damper rod side. Once you have them off and apart, you should polish the tubes with fine 1000-1200 grit sandpaper to remove any imperfections that will eventually damage your fork seals. Oh, and do them one at a time. Some of the parts look similar, but aren't. When you refill them, put some oil in, pump the forks and the cartridge on the left, then fill them to the recommended distance from the top of the tube, with the tube collapsed and the springs out. You will probably want to replace your bushings while you are there, too. At $16 for all 4, it's silly not to.





AZgl1500 posted a link to a discussion about the differences and what's available.. Look here.. http://www.goldwingfacts.com/forums/view_topic.php?id=78018&forum_id=1&jump_to=824315#p824315



(moderator, youy can make that link shorter if you'd like.. I just don't know how..,)



One of the real differences between RaceTech and Traxxion, besides theprice, is thatyou can do a RaceTech upgrade yourself, as long as you have some reasonable skills and tools. Traxxion feels that an authourized installer who has been to Georgia for training should do the forks, since there is some machining required. Traxxion totally guts the forks and replaces their innards with high quality cartridges and springs. You end up with a pretty good sized pile of parts when you ae done.



So, if you want to do the work yourself, or if finances are an issue, RaceTech will give you a lot of improvement for a reasonable investment. If you have a Traxxion installerwithin striking distance, or are willing to ship your forks toGeorgia, and the difference in price doesn't scare you, Traxxion will give you amazing improvement. I don't see an installerlistedin Fla on the Traxxion website, but they don't always have them listed. We're in NH, and they haven't found a way tolist us on their website yet. So if you give them a call, maybe there is somebody close.

No matter which way you choose to go, at 30K miles, your rearshock is toast. Actually, it was a pretty poor performer when you drove it home..

And we have foundthat a fork brace, ether a Kury or a Traxxionadds a lot of crispness in low speed maneuvers. Lastly, while you have the forks off, a set of AllBalls roller bearings will reduce the decel wobble between 40 and 25 mph.With the forks off, you're 1/2 wat there..

If that doesn't answer your questions, check out Traxxion's website, and look at the video Max has posted there. he's opinionated, but he's right..

Or, if you still have ??s, post here, PM me, call me if you'd like (my phone # is on my website, see link in sig line
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I had RaceTech do the forks for my Triumph Trophy 1200, and they are INCREDIBLE. It was $500 for upgraded springs and cartridge emulators.

RaceTech is about 20 miles from my home, and I dropped off the forks in their lobby.

The feel in the mountains is MUCH improved, and I celebrated by taking the Trophy on a 1700 mile ride to New Mexico and back having fun on the way.

Unfortunately, I have no other experience with other brands except I've ridden lots of 1500s with Progressive front springs - they're okay too.
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Many thanks for all the inputs, all good too. My mind is with Traxxion and my wallet is with Race Tech. Atlanta, GA is not that far to ride for a "drop and wait" if the work can be done that fast. I have a call into Traxxion now on timing. I will keep you posted as this project goes along.



Regards,

Longboater
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Yes, they do it while you wait.. throw a bunch of people at it and you're done in a few hours for a full monty, quicker for just forks..



Dave
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Dandy Dave wrote:
Yes, they do it while you wait.. throw a bunch of people at it and you're done in a few hours for a full monty, quicker for just forks..



Dave
Thx Dave,

Longboater
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having one or the other companies in your "back yard" makes the decision much easier to lean towards, eh?
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rgbeard wrote:
having one or the other companies in your "back yard" makes the decision much easier to lean towards, eh?
It does help also when combined with a trip to SC. (If scheduling allows). Funding however rules this house still, so the Fun-to-Pain ratio has to be carefully analyzed.:D



Longboater:action:
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I emailed Traxxion and they never replied.
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Nitrowing wrote:
I emailed Traxxion and they never replied.
Yes, I did yesterday and called and left a message today. No call back.

Tomorrow, tomorrow.:dude:



Keep the faith and hang right in there.

Longboater:cooldevil:
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Longboater wrote:
After riding my very faithful07 GL1800 (The Beast)to almost 30,000 miles, I would like to review the fork upgrades available for the 1800. Traxxion and Race Tech are two names that have been mentioned on this siteonce or twice. If I understand theissue correctly, the forks are suffering from poor design. So I am on a witch hunt to to see what upgradesmight be suitable for my kind of riding.Really could use some good conversation here.

Are drain plugs installed on the forks or is the oil drained only by disassembling and up ending? If no drain plugs,has anyone drilled and tapped for plugs? Is this possible? (Most of my dirt bikes had drain plugs).

Thanks for your help,

Longboater,

front wheel must be removed to access drain plugs.I have installed progressive springs on my 1800 with clean oil,forks are somewhat better but not great...
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Thanks for your input regarding the drain points and the comments on the Progressives. Did you remove the anti-dive function when changing the springs?



Longboater,
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Longboater wrote:
Thanks for your input regarding the drain points and the comments on the Progressives. Did you remove the anti-dive function when changing the springs?



Longboater,
No I left the anti-dive alone,but i'm going to install the 2 o-rings the see if that helps..
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redeyes88 wrote:
Longboater wrote:
Thanks for your input regarding the drain points and the comments on the Progressives. Did you remove the anti-dive function when changing the springs?



Longboater,
No I left the anti-dive alone,but i'm going to install the 2 o-rings the see if that helps..
Sounds like a cure to me from the forum too.
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Longboater wrote:
redeyes88 wrote:
Longboater wrote:
Thanks for your input regarding the drain points and the comments on the Progressives. Did you remove the anti-dive function when changing the springs?



Longboater,
No I left the anti-dive alone,but i'm going to install the 2 o-rings the see if that helps..
Sounds like a cure to me from the forum too.
Longboater,on your avatar it looks like a big black case attached to your bike.Maybe for golf clubs?
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redeyes88 wrote:
Longboater wrote:
redeyes88 wrote:
Longboater wrote:
Thanks for your input regarding the drain points and the comments on the Progressives. Did you remove the anti-dive function when changing the springs?



Longboater,
No I left the anti-dive alone,but i'm going to install the 2 o-rings the see if that helps..
Sounds like a cure to me from the forum too.
Longboater,on your avatar it looks like a big black case attached to your bike.Maybe for golf clubs?
Not a golfer yet but fishing rods, dive tanks and such. The design puts the weight on the passenger foot boards. Its athree bolt design that passes through a solid wedge. On tour they are invaluable. They also do not have to be removedto pop the seat off for maintenance issues. The one on the right supports the air horn. All parts are off the self items from the plumbing supply house (8inch PVC) and Home Depot. If interested PM me for info. There may be pictures in my gallery, can't remember. Great arm rest too.
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Longboater wrote:
redeyes88 wrote:
Longboater wrote:
redeyes88 wrote:
Longboater wrote:
Thanks for your input regarding the drain points and the comments on the Progressives. Did you remove the anti-dive function when changing the springs?



Longboater,
No I left the anti-dive alone,but i'm going to install the 2 o-rings the see if that helps..
Sounds like a cure to me from the forum too.
Longboater,on your avatar it looks like a big black case attached to your bike.Maybe for golf clubs?
Not a golfer yet but fishing rods, dive tanks and such. The design puts the weight on the passenger foot boards. Its athree bolt design that passes through a solid wedge. On tour they are invaluable. They also do not have to be removedto pop the seat off for maintenance issues. The one on the right supports the air horn. All parts are off the self items from the plumbing supply house (8inch PVC) and Home Depot. If interested PM me for info. There may be pictures in my gallery, can't remember. Great arm rest too.
I'll be in Sarasota 3rd week in Nov.for vacation on the wing weather permiting.gonna check out the keys and some sight seeing on the beaches.:cooldevil:....
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Well I tried Paul's ant-dive fix using the o-ring method,well what a difference this made for me and only cost me 29 cents....Thanks Paul
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