Full (or rolling) stop?

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MoneyGuy

Discussion Starter · Aug 13, 2009

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I admit that when I come to a stop sign, I rarely come to a full stop on my Wing. Maybe I'm lazy, but I usually have the Wing moving very slowly, don't put my left foot down and then I'm off again. A friend who rides a Wing tells me that the police will let motorcyclists do this and won't ticket them, and so far neither of us has been ticketed. Any former police out there or others with experience with this who can tell me the chances that I might geta ticket for a rolling stop??? Maybe I just need to stop worrying about it and for my own safety just come to a full stop and put the foot down before proceeding.

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rgbeard

· #2 · Aug 13, 2009

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I live in CA. Land of the rolling stop.

I was stopped by a motorcycle cop in Tijuana for one of those. He gave me a stern discussion and let me go.

exavid

· #3 · Aug 13, 2009

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I usually come to very close to a full stop or so close it's hard to tell the difference without putting a foot down. Usually don't need a foot on the ground to stop for a second or so.

knute

· #4 · Aug 13, 2009

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I do the exact same thing you do moneyguy, and I never worry about it, maybe I'm wrong, but I do it, in fact I get a little pleasure as I slow down to stop in traffic by trying to keep my bike upright as long as I can without having to put a foot down, ego, laziness, what have you, I do it, I think why should any motorist get mad at that, we are the ones that have everything to lose, as long as we are in control of our bikes, obviously.

MDKramer

· #5 · Aug 13, 2009

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I had a cop in Des Moines try giving me a ticket for not making a complete stop because as far as he was concerned, I didn't put my feet down, so I didn't stop.

Changed his tune when I rode up the block, and back, and stopped directly next to him with my feet up and balanced that way for a count of 10.

PastorT

· #6 · Aug 13, 2009

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I also use the rolling stop most of the time. If there is a LEO around, I will usually come to a full - foot down stop, why tempt fate? I have encountered a couple of LEOs that were having a bad day and needed to vent on someone - anyone. I'm not ragging on them, I studied Law Enforcement back in the 70's and think that they do a good job.

Technically, if it isn't a full stop you can get a ticket for failing to stop.

bbach

· #7 · Aug 13, 2009

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It's all about traffic. Roll and go if no ones around, touch and go if it's buzy.

TXRLGL1500

· #8 · Aug 13, 2009

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Funny, I watched four MC policemen in a town where I work do the same exact thing. At a major intersection to make a right turn last year. ALL OF THEM PRACTICED complete stops without putting their feet down, then motored away.

Cousin Jack

· #9 · Aug 13, 2009

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I'm just a primitive, but I think you'll live longer coming to a full, foot down, complete stop. True, I sometimes do not always do this, but it ain't safe.... really not safe. On the other hand, there are some questionable, dangerous intersections in my hometown at which I come to complete stop -- always! If you are lucky and save up a lifetime of the seconds saved by not putting your foot down, you'll maybe end up with what? A minute and a half? I already know I've saved myself years from death by stopping completely......and living well and longer means more and longer rides....

papabee49

· #10 · Aug 13, 2009

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I agree with CJ, at the interstedions in my subdivision I will practice a rolling stop, but once outside of the subdivision I always do a foot down complete stop. Better safe than sorry. Ride safe everyone.

53jimc

· #11 · Aug 13, 2009

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It depends on two things: 1. Any LEO's around? If so, no question full stop, foot down. No LEO, no foot down. I start checking as I roll up to the sign. Full scan of the intersection. This also give me situational awareness of the intersection. Caveat is LEOs do hide sometimes. 2. How busy is the intersection? If it's a really busy one and I have doubts about some of the traffic, I'll put the foot down, but this is the minority of the stops.
Jim(inSC)

fenry

· #12 · Aug 13, 2009

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I look at each stop as an opportunity to practice clutch, brake, and low speed control and even though it gets tiresome, I try and put the foot down at every stop...(unless I'm running really late to work in which case it's second and go...:blushing

But I freely admit I'm not as wing-experienced as most of you folk.

Moorhead WingFan

· #13 · Aug 13, 2009

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I saw this all the time as a police officer and never stopped anyone for it within reason. Obviously if they zipped up to the stop sign and never slowed to less than 5mph ie. clearly didn't make an effort to really come close to a stop and check cross traffice and than just zipped on ahead I'd pull them over. Depending on how fast they were going and attitude/past record was the determining factor on a ticket. Thing is not each jurisdiction / officer may see it the same way. Happy trails.

BustedKnuckle

· #14 · Aug 13, 2009

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No feet down at most stops, but I'm always ready for it in case of last second surprises.

Tandem54

· #15 · Aug 13, 2009

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I agree with CJ, I used to hesitate then go but when I tought about it I said what the #$%^ I might as well stop & get used to that! Most of the time I put 1 foot down & go. Keep it safe!

DeDubya

· #16 · Aug 13, 2009

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Well, as a retired LEO from a 30 year career in law enforcement, I'll give ya my take on the issue. I've watched manyintersections during my career and typically when someone runs a stop sign it is very obvious. My attitude was that if I perceived that the motorist made a conscientious effort to yield the right of way, then I considered it a lawful stop. Of course, if you don't come to a complete stop, then that gives a law enforcement officer cause to lawfully stop you. Whether or not you'll receive a citation depends largely on your attitude, any prior record and perhaps any suspicions the officer might have. Or, he could just be a jerk...I've seen those kinds of officers. Don't really know what their deal is??? For the most part, there are enough people out therewho obviously blow through intersections w/o stopping that normal officers don't worry about the others who are paying attention and being safe.

Look at it like this...how many of you out there have encountered an officer or trooperon the interstate going the exact speed limit? Do you pass him or do you fall in line with those who remain behind him? I have (crept by)only because I, as a retired officer, know that I probably won't be cited. Some officers take offense to such an action and view it as disrespectful andWILL stop you andMIGHT scroll you up. Just be reasonable and in all likelihood the officer will be too.

Take it for what it's worth.

DeDub :18white:

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hoopdc

· #17 · Aug 13, 2009

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Have been riding for 20 years now. About 200,000 miles with many, many riders over the years. Short rides, day rides, across the country rides.

I have NEVER ridden with ANYONE that comes to a full stop on a regular basis including myself. I say.......on a regular basis.

Will a police officer stop you ?? If you're not doing anything stupid, chances are almost nil they will bother you. Being a jerk ?? You DESERVE to be stopped. Of course.

Dennis

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Bagzzz

· #18 · Aug 13, 2009

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I find it interesting that we practiced the rolling stop in my motorcycle safety course.

Bob W

· #19 · Aug 13, 2009

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I am a Chicago Cop for 26 years. I wouldn't write a ticket for not putting your feet down but I know plenty who would. I ride in the suburbs mostly and I play it by ear. If the intersection is such that I can do it I do a touch and go. If not I put my feet down. There are no set rules. If you piss off the copper he will write you. that is a guarentee.

JBz

· #20 · Aug 13, 2009

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What I heard was at Hollister Rally a few years ago when the city council got tired of motorcycles they put up a few more stop signs temporary ones at thatand just ticketed the heck out of the visitors . If it wasnt 2 feet down it was a ticket. When I got my licence in California in 1970 it was 2 feet down for a complete stop. With a Goldwing You can come to a complete stop without any feet down. If there is a cop around its 2 feet down.JB

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