GL1500 Reverse Problem Fix

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jkycks

Discussion Starter · Oct 26, 2009

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GL1500 Reverse Problem - could be move few inches only on each time press the start/reverse button.
Every thing look normal, today I clean the start/reverse button box but no use.
Then I check the 65A fuse under the seat, it look ok no burn.
And I adjust again the right side where the reverse bar turning point, it's fit.
Final I open the left side covers, check the switch beside the reverse bar(by the right), spray some cleaner inside to clean only(coz switch look can't open), after, it's sound OK but not help for the few inches move only case.

The only method to move is turn the reverse bar ~3/4 until almost touch the switch beside(but not yet touch) then press the start/reverse button, the bike will reverse normally, so strange?? I think that is some electric equipment problem, not mechanical problem. Do any body know which part got problems?

Pictures attach:

Total press the button, bike just could move few inch & stop;

This position(~3/4), the bike could move normally non stop;

Cleaned;

Adjust to fit;

I think reason come from this three wires: White/blue line ; Black/white line ; Brown, but where they connect to??
*Thanks Dave Bohrer told me that :
White/blue wire goes to the Reverse Diode Assembly;
Black/white wire goes to the Neutral Indicator Light Bulb on the dash;
Brown/white wire provide voltage from the 5 amp Start/Reverse fuse.

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jkycks

Discussion Starter · #21 · Dec 16, 2009

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It may be the battery going old and voltage going low, also not ride much and become this case happen...

Tonight I get a short ride to charge the bike's battery, after that I park the bike, try to use the reverse, it looks the same but sometime want to move more than 2 inches, so I thinking may be cause by battery?? Then I try to pull the chok let the engine going higher speed to provide higher charge, Wow! It works! It works!
After this, so I'm thinking is cause by battery. And I move the battery to charge at once.

Let's check after a whole night charge it would be better or not and tell you all. :clapper:

jkycks

Discussion Starter · #22 · Dec 16, 2009

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HogansWing wrote:

Jacky, that is one clean bike you got there. Do you clean it more than ride it?
I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong but don't you have to keep you thumb on the button to keep moving it? They say you should only hold it in 5 seconds at a time.
I very rarely use mine so I am not all that familiar with it.

Clean - for the reason of we HK winger not ride much, and I simply clean it on each time when I take off the seat installing or repair something. So it looks clean and new.

May be HK is a small place, even street and parking place are narrow, so we have much chance to use the reverse, it's very import here! I think even you don't use it much, but have to always check it is work or not are good habit. Cause you don't know when will need it's help, when the time you really need it but find it's break down, you may get in trouble.

Five second on each push I think is a health habit only.

rfwicker

· #23 · Dec 17, 2009

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i have found it helpful to have the engine runnning when i use reverse on my 1800 as the starter motor uses a lot of juice when in 'reverse' mode. i also turn off any accessories, such as fog lights, led lights, etc. on my bike, gl1800, i use reverse a lot more than 5 seconds at a shot. i neither endorse or recommend a long cycle when using revese, just saying that i do. i have to turn my bike 180 degrees when i pull into the garage to get ready for the next ride, but always, i leave the engine running.again, with any moving part of your bike, the more you use it, the sooner it will wear out.

jkycks

Discussion Starter · #24 · Dec 19, 2009

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Tonight, I try to use the reverse again, still move 4 inches each time

really headage :? Why Why Why ??? Not the reason of switch, not the reason of battery... ... ... ...

rfwicker

· #25 · Dec 20, 2009

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are you trying to use reverse going up a hill? if so, maybe turn the motorcycle around and try in other direction. on my 1800, it does not like to reverse up too steep of a hill.

jkycks

Discussion Starter · #26 · Dec 21, 2009

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No. cause I have a snail parking house, every time have to reverse to park inside, even part from front, I have to reverse out. So will get trouble on each ride after.

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nsjoe

· #27 · Dec 21, 2009

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neat snail parking house there Jacky. Where did that come from?

jkycks

Discussion Starter · #28 · Dec 21, 2009

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Your country.

wpgfire

· #29 · Dec 21, 2009

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May be a stupid question but I haven't seen it asked: Are you using your reverse with the motor running? Had to ask.

jkycks

Discussion Starter · #30 · Dec 22, 2009

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wpgfire wrote:

May be a stupid question but I haven't seen it asked: Are you using your reverse with the motor running? Had to ask.

??? Don't know what you mean? In fact I use it over 2 years. Just few months before suddenly become this. Half way of the reverse bar turn, neutral light still on, reverse okay could move but when total move up the bar then neutral light off and the reverse function become 4 inches stop each time.

satan

· #31 · Dec 22, 2009

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wpgfire wrote:

May be a stupid question but I haven't seen it asked: Are you using your reverse with the motor running? Had to ask.

The 1500 should require the engine to be "ON" and running in order for the reverse to work ...

This sounds like the cable adjustment to me -- or a bent pin in the reverse lever...

If I'm reading this correctly the bike's reverse engages ELECTRICALLY with the lever raised about half-way... But with the lever fully raised (into the "normal" reverse position) the Reverse won't function.

Cables and adjustment? or a bent pin?

I vote cable adjustment --:waving

or possibly a bad reverse micro-switchthere by the lever)

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rfwicker

· #32 · Dec 29, 2009

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try using reverse with the engine running (engine on) engine should be at idle, approximate 800 rpms

sportryder

· #33 · Dec 31, 2009

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Wow! I find this thread when I am looking at the same problem and have gone through many of the same checks as jkycjks. My problem is on a GL1800, but surprisingly, most of the components are the same. I believe the main difference is that the GL1500 asks the rider to toggle the bike in and out of reverse, where the GL1800 users the reverse shift actuator.

The symptoms are that the bike will not run in reverse and the reverse light blinks when you press the reverse button. When the bike is not running, but the ignition is on, the reverse actuator "activates" ( you can hear it ) and the light comes on as normal. But when the bike is running reverse does not work.

Basically, here is what I have checked out.

Fuses (#9, #10, #23, and the Speed Limiter Fuse) = good
Reverse actuator and reverse shift relays = functional and works correctly
All relays check out including the two power control relays and the speed limiter relay.
The reverse position switch ( the one on the reserve shift actuator ) and the reverse switch ( the one on the side behind the motor ) check out.
The reverse resistor assembly checked out. I also swapped out the reverse control module with another bike and the reverse control module does not appear to be bad.

So why doesn't the reverse activate. Well, for right not, I am not sure and I am still testing the problem. One interesting thing that I noted from jkycjks's post is the following quote.

jkycks wrote:

Tonight, I checked the Starter Relay Regulator:
the LT BLU+ & GRN- ~1 V when pushed the starter/reverse switch;
the LT BRN/RED+ & GRN- ~12 V when pushed the starter/reverse switch after 0.3 seconds, think it's right cause it's over the minimum 4V;

Basically, I think this parts working normal and pass.

See, I have the same voltage on that side of the starter relay switch A. Actually, the relay reads battery voltage on that leg. The problem is that it reads battery voltage on BOTH sides of the relay solenoid and so, therefore, there is not current going through the solenoid and it does not active. jkycjks, measure both sides of the coil. Make sure that the voltage is not the same on both sides. The yellow/red lead should read battery voltage and the brown/red line should read less than battery voltage. I have checked working bikes and the voltage seems to be around 10-11 volts. This is where the manual is wrong. The minimum voltage may be 4 volts, but the maximum needs to be less than Vbat - or else current does not flow across the solenoid.

My reverse will work if I place 12v across this solenoid. So I am down to the reverse regulator assembly, but, after reading the posts here, I will check the starter switch before I replace the regulator. While I can't figure out how the switch could do this ( as the bike STARTS fine ), I have never ruled out the switch in my mind as it is a likely culprit.

If there are any other ideas I would love to consider them and I will post the results of the test I do tomorrow.

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Lightin

· #34 · Mar 2, 2010

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start engine Varoom ,varoom ,then use reverse.

jkycks

Discussion Starter · #35 · Feb 18, 2012

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Well, my problem still there, just thinking is one of the electric device under the truck box have problems. But it's a big deal to open it. I think just waiting for sometime have to maintain something then try to check it again.

jkycks

Discussion Starter · #36 · Feb 18, 2012

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Well, my problem still there, just thinking is one of the electric device under the truck box have problems. But it's a big deal to open it. I think just waiting for sometime have to maintain something then try to check it again.

jkycks

Discussion Starter · #37 · Feb 18, 2012

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ALEX BERECZKY

· #38 · Aug 28, 2013

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