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My 96 goldwing aspencade got caught in a bad flood where I work. Although it was in motorcycle parking the drains backed up in the lot and my bike was under water. I was told the seat was under water. I checked my side saddlebags and water came out when I opened them. Although this was a few hours later, the bike wouldn't fire. It would crank over but thats it. I had exactly 215000 miles on the odemeter. I pulled the starter(it finally did stop cranking) and when I took it apart, water came out and the armature is shot as well as the brushes (only had 10000 miles on the starter rebuild).
I am currently in talks with the my job as to if I will get any money for repairs. Of course I had just dropped my full coverage insurance 6 weeks ago.
Question, I have parts coming to rebuild the starter but I know that will only fix the cranking portion of it. I'm sure it still won't start. I have fresh oil in it and the old oil didn't look too bad so I 'm confident not much water got in the engine. What can I look at and where will be my coil packs or ignition system for my wires be should I not get spark? Thanks for your help-I can't afford to replace this bike at this time.
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I have Progressive insurance and had an issue with theft. My policy gives me the cost of bike plus $3k in accessories. No receipts and they took my research on parts cost. The adjuster verified my numbers and paid out a higher amount yet! Progressive has my business! With 3 quads, two trailers and a Goldwing insured by them, they better do me right.
Congrats on getting it running. Just keep an eye on the connectors and electrical stuff. If you still have your old ECU, you could probably dry it out with some desiccant or the vacuum solution and get it tested to see if it still works.
How did the dealer do on your carbs? I dont know any dealers i would trust to work on them.
Currently bike is sitting at Seminole Power Sports since last Tueday. Was told then they would be looking at and giving me price for carb rebuild. They didn't start looking at it till friday and then tried to add on other services at which I declined as they were already done(I did it myself so I know it was done) and then ordered kits to rebuild on Saturday. Today I get a call showing me (I asked for pictures not words)showing me the inside of the bowl area and the diaprahms/slides which were bad(another 110$ a piece) It is suppose to be done tomorrow(Thursday). Currently bill is now just under 1300$. I said that is it-don't call for anymore approvals as you won't get any! Put it back together with what you have! Granted bike is 17 years old and has alot of miles on it(216000) and this is the first time in a shop where I am paying for it-other times was under warranty so I can't complain too much but I can't help but wonder if it never had the issue with the water how long before carbs would need work? I am off work tomorrow, so as soon as they call I will be there to pick it up. I will give an update at that time when I ride it home.
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$13 hun-hun-hun-HUNDRED BUCKS?!

WOAH NELLIE! :shock:
I got some reading & videos to watch before I tackle my Carbs.

216K AY. "IF" you personally feel it was needed without the H2* infestation, might make you feel a little better.
I have Progressive insurance and had an issue with theft. My policy gives me the cost of bike plus $3k in accessories. No receipts and they took my research on parts cost. The adjuster verified my numbers and paid out a higher amount yet! Progressive has my business! With 3 quads, two trailers and a Goldwing insured by them, they better do me right.
Sounds like a good deal.
I felt screwed by Geico so dropped them on several vehicles and put my 95 full covered onto Progressive and 82 1100 also but only just liability to be legal riding it. I've not rode the 82 for near 2 years but around the house to keep it running but I just put collector plates on it recently so will be riding allot more when this rain stops and ! get work caught up.

For my Deer hit March 2012, Geico could not send an adjuster to look at my bike, not one within 6 hours of me for the days drive.
Forget the LIES they tell in their ads, You CANNOT make an appointment to see an adjuster! They just flat out LIE when they say you can with one simple call and a few minutes time!
I offered to haul my 88 on my own trailer with my own truck at my own expense to anywhere like Springfield, MO. where they DO have adjusters.
I was told they CANNOT make appointment's, the adjusters just run around helter skelter doing what they want when they want and appointment's cannot be made to meet with them.
So when I say they LIE I mean just that, Bald faced LIARS!

Then they give that crap about automatically covered for up to $2k for extra's. BULL, they argue they want receipts. Who has receipts for gifts? I still suffered the same loss of about $1k of extra's that I no longer have even if they were gifts! I no longer have them do I?? So much for that lie of being automatically covered!

Then there is the ridiculously low price of my bike as a total! Kelly and Nada still say my bike is worth over $4K today! About $4500
I got a crappy $3350 for it as a total, that was after deducting the $200 to keep it.
So near $1k loss in extra's, a $4500 bike in near mint condition when hit by the deer, I should have got close to $5K.
Do I feel screwed over?? :lash::lash:

The only saving grace with Geico for me right now is about $700 in refunds on my premiums I already paid!
I had kept paying the full coverage on the 88 all that time even though I could not ride it. I got refunded back to the time I bought the 95 and added it in April 2012. I could have gone back a few weeks earlier even to March 15th but that would have canceled my policy and I'd ave lost discounts so it would have cost me in the long run to get back the extra, so was better to cancel it at time I added the 95.
That was a $167 check in my pocket and also covered the payment that was due in 10 days at that time for 88 liability only now and 95 full.

I canceled the insurance on my 95 the other day, they called Progressive and verified I had been carrying both policies since April this year, so I'm getting back $320 from Geico effective from April, Not when I just called this week.

So now I only have plain minimum Liabilty with Geico for the 88, that is just a little more than it should be, so I will probably cancel it soon also and put it on Progressive, and with 3 bikes at progressive the 88 should cost me far less!

Only reason I am not doing that just yet is I do both MO. and AR. and Geico is for MO. and I have Progressive for AR. and the 88 is registered now in MO for over a year still! Soon as I find the Title, kinda lost somewhere here right now, I will transfer the title to AR and get Antique tags on it for a total cost of about $17, then I will put it on Progressive with the 82 and 95 or I will go with American Collectors.

I'll keep Geico for the Liability only on my other stuff like cheap vans, cars, trucks, because if I ever cause an accident and a court orders them to pay they have no choice. They have the best rates for that.
Screw me once though, and I move on elsewhere, so they probably will not be getting anymore full coverage premiums from me on anything.

I think they said I been with them over 12 years now with vehicles, and 4 with bikes. I pay about $1k a year more or less over the years for all I insure, and for certain around $10k or more, and they tossed that away just to screw me over this one and only claim I have ever had.
So to save maybe $2k in payout they toss away $10k business in pay ins!
And we wonder why businesses fail eventually!

They could have gave me even $6k, still made over $4k profit on what I have paid in, and then kept my business on everything another 10 years or so.
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Sounds like a good deal.
I felt screwed by Geico so dropped them on several vehicles and put my 95 full covered onto Progressive and 82 1100 also but only just liability to be legal riding it. I've not rode the 82 for near 2 years but around the house to keep it running but I just put collector plates on it recently so will be riding allot more when this rain stops and ! get work caught up.

For my Deer hit March 2012, Geico could not send an adjuster to look at my bike, not one within 6 hours of me for the days drive.
Forget the LIES they tell in their ads, You CANNOT make an appointment to see an adjuster! They just flat out LIE when they say you can with one simple call and a few minutes time!
I offered to haul my 88 on my own trailer with my own truck at my own expense to anywhere like Springfield, MO. where they DO have adjusters.
I was told they CANNOT make appointment's, the adjusters just run around helter skelter doing what they want when they want and appointment's cannot be made to meet with them.
So when I say they LIE I mean just that, Bald faced LIARS!

Then they give that crap about automatically covered for up to $2k for extra's. BULL, they argue they want receipts. Who has receipts for gifts? I still suffered the same loss of about $1k of extra's that I no longer have even if they were gifts! I no longer have them do I?? So much for that lie of being automatically covered!

Then there is the ridiculously low price of my bike as a total! Kelly and Nada still say my bike is worth over $4K today! About $4500
I got a crappy $3350 for it as a total, that was after deducting the $200 to keep it.
So near $1k loss in extra's, a $4500 bike in near mint condition when hit by the deer, I should have got close to $5K.
Do I feel screwed over?? :lash::lash:

The only saving grace with Geico for me right now is about $700 in refunds on my premiums I already paid!
I had kept paying the full coverage on the 88 all that time even though I could not ride it. I got refunded back to the time I bought the 95 and added it in April 2012. I could have gone back a few weeks earlier even to March 15th but that would have canceled my policy and I'd ave lost discounts so it would have cost me in the long run to get back the extra, so was better to cancel it at time I added the 95.
That was a $167 check in my pocket and also covered the payment that was due in 10 days at that time for 88 liability only now and 95 full.

I canceled the insurance on my 95 the other day, they called Progressive and verified I had been carrying both policies since April this year, so I'm getting back $320 from Geico effective from April, Not when I just called this week.

So now I only have plain minimum Liabilty with Geico for the 88, that is just a little more than it should be, so I will probably cancel it soon also and put it on Progressive, and with 3 bikes at progressive the 88 should cost me far less!

Only reason I am not doing that just yet is I do both MO. and AR. and Geico is for MO. and I have Progressive for AR. and the 88 is registered now in MO for over a year still! Soon as I find the Title, kinda lost somewhere here right now, I will transfer the title to AR and get Antique tags on it for a total cost of about $17, then I will put it on Progressive with the 82 and 95 or I will go with American Collectors.

I'll keep Geico for the Liability only on my other stuff like cheap vans, cars, trucks, because if I ever cause an accident and a court orders them to pay they have no choice. They have the best rates for that.
Screw me once though, and I move on elsewhere, so they probably will not be getting anymore full coverage premiums from me on anything.

I think they said I been with them over 12 years now with vehicles, and 4 with bikes. I pay about $1k a year more or less over the years for all I insure, and for certain around $10k or more, and they tossed that away just to screw me over this one and only claim I have ever had.
So to save maybe $2k in payout they toss away $10k business in pay ins!
And we wonder why businesses fail eventually!

They could have gave me even $6k, still made over $4k profit on what I have paid in, and then kept my business on everything another 10 years or so.
Gotta trust Flo, not a reptile! My agent works hard for me also. She does lots of leg work to find the best deals and highest coverage for the buck. I was surprised how easy Progressive made it for me, but they loved that I returned the favor and researched the parts and current cost. I was only doing it to verify they were going to treat me right, ends up they used my numbers and had other values that came in higher! Goldwing parts add up quick! I thought they were going to total the bike from stolen parts.

They don't come in the lowest for auto insurance, but you can't beat them for toys.
Picked up my bike today and it just screams down the highway. Runs better than before the flood. Total cost at dealer was 1209$. They discounted labor a hundred bucks and paid for all shipping on parts(next day air). So my total was 1560 with my parts and the dealer trip minus the 500$ from my company for reimbursement. So I am out of pocket a grand but it sure runs nice. Maybe this was overdue and the flood sped things up? Either way its back home and I am riding again.
Thanks for all your words of encouragement and the nay sayers-well I guess you were wrong, it was worth it to me to keep the bike on the road and I guess that's what really matters.
Yes, only reason I am not moving my autos to them yet is price is a bit high.
Looks decent when they show the rates online, but look close and there is a 1 time discount for changing companies!
I want to know my yearly rate always, not just the first 6 months with some special one time only discount!

I did find calling in though that an on the phone agent may be able to do better on the rates than the online estimate. I think the gal I talked to saved me another $75 or so on my bikes.
So I may call in for estimate on my auto rates, if they can at least come close to matching Geico on a fullt time basis the they may get al my vehicles other than what I put on American Collectors soon.

American Collectors is by far the best rates on Antiques and collector stuff, and with agrees value too. I think it was $5k value on my 82 Porsche I was looking at for $95 a year including liability towing, and covers $500 in spare parts too. The Shelby Daytonna at about $5k same coverage I think was $100 a year.
Bikes are only supposed to be ran 2500 miles or less a year, and cars/trucks to events or a nice drive, etc.. and about 15 of mine I store but don't use fall into those uses!
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Picked up my bike today and it just screams down the highway. Runs better than before the flood. Total cost at dealer was 1209$. They discounted labor a hundred bucks and paid for all shipping on parts(next day air). So my total was 1560 with my parts and the dealer trip minus the 500$ from my company for reimbursement. So I am out of pocket a grand but it sure runs nice. Maybe this was overdue and the flood sped things up? Either way its back home and I am riding again.
Thanks for all your words of encouragement and the nay sayers-well I guess you were wrong, it was worth it to me to keep the bike on the road and I guess that's what really matters.
yep, that's what matters!
I missed a page or so and have to read those, but why only $500 from insurance? Or was the $500 from work? What about your insurance, did you have full coverage, I forgot now but been looking at thread. Have to go back and read read it.
Picked up my bike today and it just screams down the highway. Runs better than before the flood.
I am so very HAPPY for you!!! Congratulations!!!!

:claps::claps::claps:


Tim.
Picked up my bike today and it just screams down the highway. Runs better than before the flood. Total cost at dealer was 1209$. They discounted labor a hundred bucks and paid for all shipping on parts(next day air). So my total was 1560 with my parts and the dealer trip minus the 500$ from my company for reimbursement. So I am out of pocket a grand but it sure runs nice. Maybe this was overdue and the flood sped things up? Either way it's back home and I am riding again.
Thanks for all your words of encouragement and the nay sayers-well I guess you were wrong, it was worth it to me to keep the bike on the road and I guess that's what really matters.
Was that a John Denver tune?

:action:___SUPER!___:)
After riding a couple hundred miles since the carb rebuild, here is just a couple things that I noticed is different. I have a digital oil temperature gage in my drain plug. Before the flood if my oil temp was 86 or higher, there was no need to choke before I started it up. Now,on a cold engine but oil temp is 97 I still have to choke or it won't start and then leave it choked till it warms a little. The other is, although my rpms at idle are the same as before, it seems to stall real easy from a dead stop. Before, I could go without even giving it throttle but not no more-found that out when it died at a intersection. Might be because everything is tight in carb? I don't know, but it is running and I'm glad to be back on it again.
Dirty water more than likely coated the entire engine with a bit of dirt and that (I know) will raise the temp.
Ask the rebuilder/tuner how he/she tuned it. More than likely since it's a touring bike they'll set it for leanest mix for highest mpg's. That's what I did at the Yam-shop when I tuned the Venture.

Just add a little choke when coming from a dead stop. V'room V'ROOOOM!

;)
Were you good on recording fuel mileage? I am curious if the mpg changes now. I wonder if you were running rich with previous carb set up? Could be why you feel it screams down the highway now. Is it more snappy now?
Congrats. The problem with things like this happening is that when you get them back they never really do operate the same as they did before. It's not a bad thing, just something to get used to and maybe adjust as needed. Glad to see you back riding again. :)
The final on this thread: I filled up yesterday and this would be a check to see what my mpg has changed to since the carb rebuild. Unfortunately, it was exactly the same(I keep close tabs on all my vehicles)down to the 100dreth. Meaning before the flood I was getting 43/44 mpg and now I still get 43/44 mpg. My fuel gage was giving me a very bad representation going the other way(it was showing using more than normal) but actual fill up was the same as it has been the last 13 years. So, did I need all that 500$ in parts? I guess I'll never know! Either way it does feel good to be riding again. Maybe some vacuum leaks aren't all the bad:)
So, did I need all that 500$ in parts? I guess I'll never know!
You said...

" My gas mileage was horrible. Took a half tank to go 75 miles. "

Then ...

" Picked up my bike today and it just screams down the highway. Runs better than before the flood. "


I think they needed it! hahahahaha Looks good on you!

Tim.
What I meant was, my fuel mileage was bad after the flood but before the carb rebuild. It doesn't idle steady and at times I think it will stall. I am on vacation next week and am going to do a compression check as I will have all the panels off for some mounting repairs to do. I start a new job after labor day (same company but different area) and it will involve overtime which means I could be riding 500 miles a week:) On a side note, one of the Sups was killed just a mile from work going home from a very bad storm,(I know as I rode through it an hour earlier) by a girl that was texting. She ran a red and dragged him a hundred feet. We would always meet at the bikes at night but that night he stayed later to finish up a project at work.
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