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Clutch and throttle also both have a micro switch
Clutch and throttle also both have a micro switch
GL1500 unreliable- cruise control now!
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Hi, Well here we go again. Just returned from a fantastic holiday on my '97 1500 SE through Spain, across the Pyranees and up through France. This time I didn't actually break down (though my mate's GL 1200 intermittently went onto 2 cyclinders, (suspect yet another coil). Unfortunately my cruise control packed up. It will not "set". I've checked the switch near the rear master cylinder- but that's working and testing fine. Brake light switches front and rear seem ok. Any ideas?
It's getting embaressing now. On the trip we had an early '80s Moto Guzzi 750, an ancient and high miles CX500, an old Africa Twin and moto Guzzi Griso. Both Gold wings (the ultimate tourer) were the only bikes to give a moment's trouble. The micky taking is almost too much to bear.
Any ideas what to look for re the cruise control- common faults etc. (I know the cruise control isn't vital but this is an expensive bike and it should work (just like the one on my ancient Ford does!. Thank you....Steve
Hi, Well here we go again. Just returned from a fantastic holiday on my '97 1500 SE through Spain, across the Pyranees and up through France. This time I didn't actually break down (though my mate's GL 1200 intermittently went onto 2 cyclinders, (suspect yet another coil). Unfortunately my cruise control packed up. It will not "set". I've checked the switch near the rear master cylinder- but that's working and testing fine. Brake light switches front and rear seem ok. Any ideas?
It's getting embaressing now. On the trip we had an early '80s Moto Guzzi 750, an ancient and high miles CX500, an old Africa Twin and moto Guzzi Griso. Both Gold wings (the ultimate tourer) were the only bikes to give a moment's trouble. The micky taking is almost too much to bear.
Any ideas what to look for re the cruise control- common faults etc. (I know the cruise control isn't vital but this is an expensive bike and it should work (just like the one on my ancient Ford does!. Thank you....Steve
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Thanks Ferrarimx5,
Do you know if the throttle micro-switch is near the throttle control itself or at the carburettor end of the cable? Does the clutch micro-switch that allows the engine to start in gear, double up as the cruise control clutch microswitch?...thanks Steve
Thanks Ferrarimx5,
Do you know if the throttle micro-switch is near the throttle control itself or at the carburettor end of the cable? Does the clutch micro-switch that allows the engine to start in gear, double up as the cruise control clutch microswitch?...thanks Steve
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I've found the switches- not sure if a wire was off one of them, might have come off when I pulled the rubber boot back. The switches test ok. Do you know if the cruise engages when the bike is running in o/drive on the main stand or does it get an input from the speedo and only engage at a certain road speed. Thanks...Steve
I've found the switches- not sure if a wire was off one of them, might have come off when I pulled the rubber boot back. The switches test ok. Do you know if the cruise engages when the bike is running in o/drive on the main stand or does it get an input from the speedo and only engage at a certain road speed. Thanks...Steve
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If I remember correctly,cruise will work over 30 MPH only. Try it on the stand and see. Don't forget to tie the front brake lever back though - just in case.
If I remember correctly,cruise will work over 30 MPH only. Try it on the stand and see. Don't forget to tie the front brake lever back though - just in case.
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steve worth wrote:
Here is a good test, while riding and trying to set the cruise control, push out on the clutch lever. If it sets then there is a good chance the brass bushing at the clutch lever is worn and causing the problem.
Just because the switches test good does not mean everything. The motion travel of the clutch lever also needs to be right. If the brass bushing is worn and not allowing the clutch lever to go out far enough to allow the cruise micro switch to do it's job then that can cause the problem.
If things check out good at the clutch lever, then try pushing out on the hand brake lever.
If things check out good at the hand brake lever, then try pulling up on the brake pedal while trying to set the cruise control. It's possible the switch could need adjusting.
Having said all the above, most times (not necessarily always) the problem is at the clutch lever.
I believe the cruise sets at speeds of 30 mph or higher (up to 80 mph). Your speedometer is driven by the cable from the front wheel, therefor it probably will not set while on the center stand. When running on the center stand, the speedometer does not register.
I know this was long but hope it helps.........!
steve worth wrote:
The micro switches (2) at the clutch lever should click two times when you pull the clutch lever in to the hand grip. The 1st click (right away) is the cruise cancel, 2nd click (as it nears the hand grip) allows the bike to start in gear. (If the side stand is up and clutch pulled in to the grip)I've found the switches- not sure if a wire was off one of them, might have come off when I pulled the rubber boot back. The switches test ok. Do you know if the cruise engages when the bike is running in o/drive on the main stand or does it get an input from the speedo and only engage at a certain road speed. Thanks...Steve
Here is a good test, while riding and trying to set the cruise control, push out on the clutch lever. If it sets then there is a good chance the brass bushing at the clutch lever is worn and causing the problem.
Just because the switches test good does not mean everything. The motion travel of the clutch lever also needs to be right. If the brass bushing is worn and not allowing the clutch lever to go out far enough to allow the cruise micro switch to do it's job then that can cause the problem.
If things check out good at the clutch lever, then try pushing out on the hand brake lever.
If things check out good at the hand brake lever, then try pulling up on the brake pedal while trying to set the cruise control. It's possible the switch could need adjusting.
Having said all the above, most times (not necessarily always) the problem is at the clutch lever.
I believe the cruise sets at speeds of 30 mph or higher (up to 80 mph). Your speedometer is driven by the cable from the front wheel, therefor it probably will not set while on the center stand. When running on the center stand, the speedometer does not register.
I know this was long but hope it helps.........!
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DBohrer,
You were smack on regards the clutch switch. I think one of the terminals had come off it's post- though it's hard to tell as it's easy to dislodge one when pulling the rubber boot back. I've secured everything and tried it up the road and it's perfect. It wouldn't work on the stand for the reason you gave re the speedo. Also, as you say- the slightest tug of the clutch is all it needs to prevent the system setting, but mine does seem to be operating ok and not sticking and there is no pivot wear- so the wire off is the likliest cause. Thanks again- and also to baldrick and Ferrarimx5 for your help. I'm happy again...Steve
DBohrer,
You were smack on regards the clutch switch. I think one of the terminals had come off it's post- though it's hard to tell as it's easy to dislodge one when pulling the rubber boot back. I've secured everything and tried it up the road and it's perfect. It wouldn't work on the stand for the reason you gave re the speedo. Also, as you say- the slightest tug of the clutch is all it needs to prevent the system setting, but mine does seem to be operating ok and not sticking and there is no pivot wear- so the wire off is the likliest cause. Thanks again- and also to baldrick and Ferrarimx5 for your help. I'm happy again...Steve
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And thanks to this wonderful forum, another problem goes away!!! Nice work guys! jimsjinx
And thanks to this wonderful forum, another problem goes away!!! Nice work guys! jimsjinx
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jimsjinx wrote:
jimsjinx wrote:
And the rest of us get some great info......Thanks alot guys!!And thanks to this wonderful forum, another problem goes away!!! Nice work guys! jimsjinx
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