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hi wingers

angel here from the uk.

my project goldwing was delivered
today. i bought the bike as seen!
:-(

1) the exhaust was rotten.
this was removed today.
so many seized bolts. used a product
called 'freeze and release'.
this unlocked the rusty fastenings.
just about to order a stainless 4-2
exhaust system.

2) the previous owner advised me
that he had put new rear brake pads in
the caliper. there is a leak and i don't
know why he said. i took the caliper
off and noticed no pistons/seals?
i've asked the seller to try and find
me another caliper!

3) i'd to buy a new motobatt battery.
i connected it up and turn the switch.
the dash lights lit up. the front, turns,
neutral lights are there. the rear light
doesn't work (bulb?) rear turns do work.

4) i tried to start the bike.
do i've to pull the clutch into start it,
like my kawasaki?
the starter motor is heard spinning.
could the starter be the fault for not
turning over?

5) i noticed the rear air shocks
gaitors are cracked with age.
the bike has only done 35k and
i was concerned whether the shocks
will need to be replaced or just the
gaitors if i can find any.

6) i don't have an owners manual.
i've never owned a wing before.
what is air shocks riders please?

i've tried the 4 keys in the bike.
ignition, panniers, dummy tank,
right front storage box.

q) i've seen another key, this
is on the right side and has 4 white
buttons. how do you use these buttons
please?

q) is there a goldwing gl1200 de
interstate 1984 users manual
available on pdf or rar please?


many thanks for your advice
wingers!

angel
united kingdom
 

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1: if the exhaust is rotten, by all means replace it. don't forget gaskets.
2: po pulled seals and piston out of caliper and then put in new pads? amazing. don't ride it like this or someone is going to get killed.
3: rear lights might be bulb or loose wire. check fuse
4: if the bike is in neutral, you shouldn't have to pull in the clutch to start it. if you can hear the starter spinning then it may be the starter clutch. try 1/2 can of sea foam in the oil, drain and fill oil after about 100 easy miles. that may free it up. if not, be prepared to pull the motor. there are other things to try first so don't hit the panic button yet.
5: not familiar with the term gaiters. rear air shocks are usually rebuildable.
6: are you looking for owners manual or repair manual?
 

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Don't know if you can get them in the UK but Monroe shock mate SA1997s make for good replacement shock gaiters. If you hear the starter it is most likely the starter clutch but it would be prudent to pull the starter and see if the PO left anything out in there.
Try here for your manual, http://www.goldwingworld.com/pages/Downloads.htm
I have no idea what the key lock with the 4 white buttons could be.
 

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My '85 1200 starter spins once in a while without engaging. I release the button, let it stop, then hit the button again. It usually catches the second time.

I had to rebuild both master cylinders and all three calipers on mine, and converted it to non linked brakes at the same time. But all the hard parts were there.

I don't know what you paid for the bike, sounds like you may have been scammed. I mean, no pistons in the brake caliper?
 

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gl1200 de interstate 1984 new project

hi wingers

many thanks for your replies and advice.

i've never seen a forum where i
can't reply to a fellow rider.
this email answers all the questions.

q) gaitors in the uk are the rubber
concertina boots, that are fitted
to shock absorbers.

i paid £1450 brit £'s for this wing.
the guy is getting on, bad back.
he has great feedback on ebay.
he has just sold off his bike collection
due to business debts. he gave me
all the road safety yearly certificates.
the last 'british mot' was in 2009.
i've checked the government cumulative mileage
and this is correct at 39k.

he advised me to changed the oil, to a thin one?
flush the engine with something like the usa
'seafoam'. i've now found this product on ebay.

q) what is the best engine oil for the wings
please?

'mystery key switch and 4 white buttons'

are for the air ride system.
how does this work please?
the key switch could be a safety
precaution to stop pedestrians
messing up your suspension, maybe.

q) i've now found the haynes workshop
manual from the goldwing docs site.
many thanks to the winger who
kindly uploaded the files.

q) does anyone have a scanned
copy of the goldwing gl1200 de
1984 user manual please?
i've found them on ebay usa,
the shipping costs + customs costs
equate to a very expensive 6" x 4"
book!

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on connecting a new battery, most
lights work, good!

on pressing the start button,
i can hear the starter motor spinning
but not engaging. i can't ride the
bike at the moment. no exhaust or
rear brake. the weather is frosty here.
i live in the country. slippery icy roads.

the bike has stood in a barn for
two years. the bike was started
a year ago.

i was thinking about doing this:-

drain engine oil and filter.
include seafoam and rotate the rear
wheel by hand to help circulate
the new oil and seafoam.
leave for a few days. repeat daily.

drain off the clogged mess.

repeat!

would this be beneficial as i can't
start the bike due to starter clutch?

many thanks for your advice wingers!

regards

angel
 

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i use 15w40 for the summer and 10w40 for the winter. my starter clutch complains about the cold weather and sometimes takes me up to a dozen tries to actually start. if you can't get sea foam, marvels mystery oil works just as well for cleaning the inside of the engine. don't ride the bike like this as the oil will be too thin.
remove the starter. look inside the engine and make sure the small gear and chain are present. if not, plan on pulling motor, place starter on a table, connect it to battery ( neg to starter case and pos to stud) check that the starter shaft turns.
if the chain is present inside the engine, you should be able to turn by hand. should only turn in one direction.
if you can't free up the starter clutch with sea foam or mmo, plan on pulling the motor.
my bike doesn't have the air ride compressor setup so hopefully someone should be along soon to help there.
 

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many thanks for your sound advice tt!

in the uk you can't buy mmo?
just found seafoam on ebay uk! :)

what type of oil is recommended
for the wings please?

mineral?
semi-synthetic?
fully-synthetic?

pulling the engine is too much
for a lassie! do a sprag starter clutch
is real mechanicing.

if anyone fancies do my starter clutch
i'll pay you well. there are no good
mechanics over here, only rip off
companies!

q) is it easy to remove the starter motor
from a gl1200 de?

any advice is greatly received.
i will print off the haynes manual
tomorrow. so many questions!
a big learning curve tt!

thanks again *

angel
 

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hi wingers

many thanks for your replies and advice.

i've never seen a forum where i
can't reply to a fellow rider.
this email answers all the questions.
Do you mean a private message? Yes you can.
Go to quick links and scroll to private messages




q) what is the best engine oil for the wings
please?
Diesel/heavy duty engine oil is what is most of us use. For flushing just buy the cheapest oil you can find.




q) does anyone have a scanned
copy of the goldwing gl1200 de
1984 user manual please?
Answered above.

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on connecting a new battery, most
lights work, good!

on pressing the start button,
i can hear the starter motor spinning
but not engaging. i can't ride the
bike at the moment. no exhaust or
rear brake. the weather is frosty here.
i live in the country. slippery icy roads.



i was thinking about doing this:-

drain engine oil and filter.
include seafoam and rotate the rear
wheel by hand to help circulate
the new oil and seafoam.
leave for a few days. repeat daily.

drain off the clogged mess.

repeat!

would this be beneficial as i can't
start the bike due to starter clutch?
No, that would do nothing for the start clutch or anything else unless you can turn the rear wheel fast with the transmission in gear.

many thanks for your advice wingers!

regards

angel
Good luck.
 

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=mB2hD5cCkEcfly me over and feed me dinner and i'll be happy to get your bike up! just kidding. it's easy to pull the starter. first place the bike on the side stand. disconnect the battery. remove the cable from the starter, 10mm nuts. remove the starter to engine mounting bolts. 8mm. slide starter towards the front of the bike. (i have to remove the shifter on mine to do this) pull starter away from bike. youtube has a good video of this.
i prefer regular motorcycle oil as opposed to synthetic. the old bikes were built for it.
 

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i was thinking about doing this:-

drain engine oil and filter.
include seafoam and rotate the rear
wheel by hand to help circulate
the new oil and seafoam.
leave for a few days. repeat daily.

drain off the clogged mess.

repeat!

would this be beneficial as i can't
start the bike due to starter clutch?

many thanks for your advice wingers!

regards

angel
The engine must be running to get oil to the starter clutch, turning the engine with the rear wheel won't do it.

A Goldwing is not hard to push start if you have a friend to help push.
 

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If the engine is dirty inside, I would drain the oil, change the filter, put in 8 oz of Seafoam, then fill it with 20w50 oil (the cheapest oil you can find) ride it about 500 miles, then drain everything out, but leave the filter. Put another 8 oz of Seafoam and fill it with oil, and ride it another 500 miles. Do this until the oil stays clean for a while. My engine was dirty inside from lack of maintenance. I have put about 11,000 miles on it since I got it, and have changed the oil about 15 times. I still change it every 1000 miles. I use cheap SuperTech oil from Walmart. I don't know if you have an equivalent to that in the UK or not.
 

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thanks everyone for your input!
very good of you!

i can't push start the bike.
no one here in this barren wildness.
only me, my cats. trying to
bump start a wing is impossible.
dont laugh! i see the new bike
as visually massive. it looks like
it has eaten all my other 'big bikes!'
i'm sure that on riding it, will
feel like a similar bike that i've ridden.
think back to the time you bought
your first wing. the start and stop.
the looks of admiration from your
fellow planet dwellers. the children
pointing. the young riders on smaller
twist and go 'hairdriers!'

please will you send me your 'first
goldwing ride outs'. being 'half a car'
in size must've generated some new adventure
stories! i've just thought about the
side panniers. six packs of beer, or
boxes of dog or cat food, perfectly
balanced! ye!

looking forward to hearing your gw
first ride outs stories wingers!

rookie winger angel!
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I can't forget getting my '82 GL1100 naked in '84, back in the UK, just as you said "half the size of a car" I absolutely loved it. I seem to remember a real poser dude that had a Sportster, a big deal back then, suddenly started hating me after I blew him away a few times.

Me and my friends, being brought up on Beezers and Trumpets and the majority of us still riding them then, the only shot they could give me out of pure jealousy was "why don't you just go and get a car" That was not gonna happen though because as I said, I absolutely loved it!
 
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