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Wow!! After waiting for 5 long years since the law was passed, it finally happened. As of this June 21st, motorcycles in Maricopa county AZ will NO LONGER NEED TO BE EMISSIONS TESTED. We will no longer be the only county in the ENTIRE country that requires motorcycle emissions testing. I will now be able to register 2 bikes I've had stored for the past couple of years, and legally register my Goldwing to my home address. It is now safe to spend money and do work on it without having to worry about that damn emissions test.

To those of you who have never had to deal with this, it may seem like I'm making a big deal out of nothing. I'm not. If you lived in Maricopa county, it didn't matter how good your bike ran, you could not register it if it did not pass emissions. And older bikes could be almost impossible to get through. I have 3 bikes that run great, but would not pass. I feel like I just got out of prison. Finally free to register and ride my bikes legally.
 

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Wow!! After waiting for 5 long years since the law was passed, it finally happened. As of this June 21st, motorcycles in Maricopa county AZ will NO LONGER NEED TO BE EMISSIONS TESTED. We will no longer be the only county in the ENTIRE country that requires motorcycle emissions testing. I will now be able to register 2 bikes I've had stored for the past couple of years, and legally register my Goldwing to my home address. It is now safe to spend money and do work on it without having to worry about that damn emissions test.

To those of you who have never had to deal with this, it may seem like I'm :claps:making a big deal out of nothing. I'm not. If you lived in Maricopa county, it didn't matter how good your bike ran, you could not register it if it did not pass emissions. And older bikes could be almost impossible to get through. I have 3 bikes that run great, but would not pass. I feel like I just got out of prison. Finally free to register and ride my bikes legally.
Thanks for the news!!

Is is huge!! :claps:
 

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Are you sure Jerry? I originally heard March, but I got the prompt in my renewal envelope. They've been dicking around with this for a long time and I expect some like the revenue it generates.

Either way, I have to take the bike in tomorrow morning for testing, and pay the ludicrous $19 annual fee.
 

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"Phoenix Motorcycles

In 2008, the Arizona Legislature passed House Bill 2280 authorizing the exemption of motorcycles from emissions testing requirements in the Phoenix area. The exemption required the approval of the U.S. EPA by July 2014 (as authorized by House Bill 2033 in April 2010 and extended by House Bill 2073 in 2012).) A request for approval of the exemption was submitted to the U.S. EPA on November 10, 2009. An addendum was submitted on January 12, 2011. Copies of the submittals are available upon request by calling the SIP Unit at (602) 771-2373. The U.S. EPA's approval becomes effective on June 21, 2013 (78 FR 30209; May 22, 2013). After June 21, 2013, motorcycles in the metro Phoenix area will no longer be required to be tested."


Yes, this time it is for real. June 21st. I got this directy fro the AZ ADEQ site.

Maricopa county was the only place in the whole country that had this ridiculous law. If your bike passes ok, then it is only money and inconvenience. But many old bikes won't pass for various reasons, and would not be worth trying to make pass, like my fuel injected LTD. Many people like me, that love to ride and work on old bikes were basically being held hostage by this law.

I also have a '72 Pinto that would not pass, even a good mechanic could not get it through. Low compression on one cylinder, though it ran fine. It sat for 5 years, until I finally got it insured and registered as a collector car, which exempted it from the test. Even CA only tests '75 and up vehicles, and no motorcycles. AZ goes all the way back to 1967. I bought my '64 Fairlane (which also runs great) because it was to old to require testing.
 

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Here it is from the official source. http://www.azdeq.gov/environ/air/vei/motor.html

At least for you it was only money and inconvenience. I had 3 bikes just sitting there because of it. I had the Goldwing registered to a relatives address in Pinal county, but the stickers are different, and I was always scared I was going to get caught with it. Now I can ride it without having to worry about it anymore. I just ordered about $250 worth of stuff for all 3 bikes, and will start getting them back in good running condition so they will all be ready to go on June 21st.
 

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Yay for you all "Zonians"! I lived most of my life in Mesa, and I hated the emissions testing, cars and bikes alike. Folks with "less than desirable" vehicles, had their registrations held hostage, untill you spent an inordinate amount of money for repairs, or could somehow get a waiver, which I understand more recently was near impossible to get. Glad for ya! jimsjinx
 

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Much of Oregon requires smog testing on automobiles and pickup trucks, but not on bikes (never heard of that before). It's insane to be required to run relatively new cars through the testing...but it's all about the revenue I'm guessing. I believe once a vehicle is over 20 yrs old Oregon exempts it from the test.

Congratulation Jerry on that rare granule of legislative common sense prevailing in your area!
 

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That's strange about older bikes in Maricopa Co. In most states older vehicles only have to pass the standards that were in force at the time the vehicle was built. Older cars aren't held to newer smog requirements.
Whatever it's good to hear that some common sense by any government can happen.
 

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The standards really are pretty lax. My bike idles very badly and it still passed with hydrocarbons at about 35% and CO at about 5% of allowable.
 

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Mine idles perfectly, it will stay right on 1140 rpm on the digital tach for several minutes. But it still failed twice. Being fuel injected, and because it runs so good, I wasn't about to mess with it.

On my Yamaha XT225, I have two carbs, one set up for riding, and one for emissions tests. I had to swap out the carbs every year just for the test. It was virtually unrideable when set to pass the test.

Back when I was into air cooled VWs (I still am actually, I just don't own one at the moment) the owner of a local custom VW shop in Mesa had a bug with a souped up engine, and it wouldn't pass. He actually swapped out engines every year to get through the test. (not as big of a deal on an air cooled bug as it might seem, it could be done in less than a day by an experienced mechanic) but it was still a bit ridiculous.

And a guy I used to work with had a beautiful red '67 Vette coupe that he had owned for over 20 years. He came from either Washington or Oregon, where it was to old to have to be tested. In AZ, he had to spend about $300 a year to have a shop rejet and retune it to pass the test, then put it back the way it was, so it would be driveable. He finally gave up and sold it in disgust, and bought a new '07. A year later he could have registered it as a collector car and been exempt from testing.

Now that motorcycle testing has been eliminated, I only have one vehicle that has to be tested, an '01 Malibu, and it passes easily. It is a transportation only car, not a hobby vehicle like everything else, so it doesn't really matter as long as it continues to pass.
 

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It's about time! That test was such a joke! You just idle it for thirty seconds, they do a visual inspection of the gas cap and you're on your way. They could never figure out how to read my vin tag and my first bike,an 83 shadow, was so rich you couldn't hardly stand pulling up to a stop because of the fumes and it still passed with flying colors. Maybe they'll finally let us register the bikes for 2 years at a time now...
 

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That's great I hate that I have to take it in, I'm always afraid it will fail because of it's age! Now the question is; Mine is due the 15th of June & it says I need the test, if I wait till after the 15th it will cost me $8 late fee, so do I wait? or just pay one last time?
 

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Why not just pay the late fee? Eight dollars isn't bad, probably less than having it tested.
 

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That's great I hate that I have to take it in, I'm always afraid it will fail because of it's age! Now the question is; Mine is due the 15th of June & it says I need the test, if I wait till after the 15th it will cost me $8 late fee, so do I wait? or just pay one last time?
I would call ADOT and check that out before you do it. Might end up paying the late fee on top of the $19 test fee.
 

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Yeh, I think I'll just "Git er done! and not worry about a few bucks and hope they start a 2 year renewal.
 

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I would pay the $8 late fee. After June 21 there is no more test, so there is no test fee. The test fee is more than double the late fee. But money is not the main issue here, to me it is the principal of the thing. I let the registration on my XT225 run out in May, to avoid the hassle of switching the carbs again. I'll just pay the late fee.

I left my '72 Pinto unregistered for 4-1/2 years, just drove it up and down the street in front of my house once a week to keep it from deteriorating. When the collector car law took effect, I had it insured as a collector car, exempting it from the test, then went in and signed an affidavit that it had not been used on public roads during the time it was not registered, showed them the collector car insurance, and got it registered, for $45, $25 of it because it has personalized plates.

I took the Goldwing in twice, and it failed both times. Two different test places. And while you could smell the exhaust if you were standing right behind it, it wasn't that bad. Couldn't smell it at all from the seat.
 

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So, Tandem.
Your registration is due mid-month? That's weird. I thought they were all due the end of the initial registration month.
 

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Well, the plate says June and that's what I thought too (the 30th) but the notice I got in the mail says it's due on June 15th I don't know if that's when they consider it late or after the 30th?? I'm out of AZ for July so if I let it go it will be at least Aug. before I register it and pay the late fee. Thinking I'll just wait because I won't be riding until then anyways! I think you are right and I need to call them?!
 
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