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Harley's doing it. Why not Honda?

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Check out the new Harley trike. Apparently they're not worried about any lawsuits. Honda really ought to re-think the market appeal.

Regards,

Hobie

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I'm not a Harley guy but that is an awesome machine!
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Hmm, I wonder what will become of the new conversions that many Harley Dealers offer. :?

Competition? Clauses? No-Compete issues in general? Harley is in a scramble-mode now and should've pursued this before now. Won't be long before we see a thumper coming from them. It's all good. Nice looking trike. Makes sense to me. Honda should follow suit if they're not going to lead. Keep the price even with the converts, maybe even lower it since it would be line produced?

Don't know, but if they can get it looking like SpiderBobs trike, they would have a seller.:)
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What kind of lawsuits?
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Now that's sweet!:cooler:
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Harley is making two versions of the Trike, top of the line as a cruiser is just about 40,000 out the door. Same for a Honda top of the line.
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my dad test drove a 2010 trike a week ago
i couldnt keep up with him it has a 1545powerplant and the salesman said they might come with automatics not to sure on that one i didnt get into the detail yes the price is extremely high but when your back goes with age and you cant ride on two wheels for more than 100miles cuz your hips and arthritis kick in what choice do you have i'd rather ride with 3 wheels in style than nothing at all

i rode it and im telling you OH MY GOD sterring is tricky but you get used to it
tons of storage

between the rear wheels is a large trunk area, helmet box
not to shabby plus pulling a trailer would be a sinch

easier than two wheeling a trailer in my humble opinion alot more stable in the wind it was bucking 30mph or so gusts and i was all over the road at 70mph and my dad just blew past me like i was nothing now i dont think a measly 1100cc motor had anything to do with it lol

he might get one in a few years depeds on how his health treats him
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Wing-Rider wrote:
What kind of lawsuits?
It is my understanding that way back when ATVs were just coming on line, Honda made a ATV trike. I rode one a couple of times. They were very prone to tipping over to the front if you tried to turn too tight and too fast. You could also flip them over backwards if you weren't careful. Lawsuits followed. Honda went out of the trike business entirely.

If I'm mistaken about this, please set me straight. I'll have no problem being corrected if necessary.:)

Hobie
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Tons of lawsuits as I remember.... TONS. No correction needed. There was a National push to outlaw them altogether.
A friend had a ATC185 and we would trade every so often.
If you didn't know how to ride it, you were asking for trouble.
IMO, the ATCs were safe as long as you knew how to ride them.

I loved it.

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Total different technology in thedifferential. On the ATV 3 wheeler you had to sit on the in board fender when turning to give traction the the inside tire.
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This one priced out the door, with armrests and backrest 37,999
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What's the differential technology got to do with the three-point contact patch and momentum? It's all about Center of Gravity and Common Sense with enough experience toutilize both.

Those lawsuits back in the '80s had Honda Senior Japanese Management in tears on the witness stand, taking grillings from Lawyers who went for blood, all to the cheer of onlookers. They don't want that again. I suspect they are reluctant with good reason. Agreed, these are two different market segments entirely, but err to the side of caution seems Hondas stance.
Trike a new Goldwing and Mother Honda voids your warranty. :shock:

Lawsuits are still pending today over Honda ATCs.

Edit: I forgot to add...+1 to HD for leading factory trikes... again.
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Lehman Trikes in Spearfish, SD makes a nice product!

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CaptainMidnight85 wrote:
Trike a new Goldwing and Mother Honda voids your warranty. :shock:
Not really - I'll have to go look it up when I'm home, but there is a law that still holds them responsible for things not changed by the conversion, and puts the burden of proof on the maker of the vehicle. Yes, he can say this caused that, but he has to show cause. Then it goes to court and costs both sides lots of money, but none-the-less there is a law supporting the warranty issue.

Been there done that
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Yes really, it clearly states in the Warranty that Honda will void your warranty if you trike your bike.

I assume your referencing the Magnuson-Moss Warranty - Federal Trade Commission Improvement Act of 1975?

Thats has nothing to do with Honda voiding your warranty if you choose to trike your Goldwing.



Edit: I don't know how to link it... andnow my character size has gone haywire..
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Most major mods on bikes and cars will void the warranty. Usually in more then one area. All depends on how they word it. Most warranty's are clearly written to void when you start doing after market modifications. For instance if you buy a new sport car then add a turbo charger yourself and blow an engine. They are not going to fix your car. There will likely be warranty stipulations that either make you go through the dealer for a genuine partsfor themod or no mods offered for the vehicle. Bikes are the same.
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CaptainMidnight85 , yes that is the act, that is news to me as I've done things to my Motorhome and truck and although they would not warrenty the item changed others items they have and did. Why would bikes be any different? tjradphilly, I had had engine work done, but they had to show that the questioned work effected the warrantied item. I had a cam put in and I had crankshaft problems - long story short, they replaced the crankshaft but not the cam. :?
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Any Honda Dealer can submit warranty work for approval. Doesn't matter what it is (within the obvious, but I didn't need to say this).
I'm not referring to the practice of warranty submission and approval, and any subsequent repair that follows.

With that said, any warranty action taken on behalf of a Dealer is authorized by American Honda. If it is not authorized, and action is 1) taken under the guise of warranty2) performed without approval or 3) falsely represented to American Honda, then the Dealer is liable in many ways, most notably would be that of violating his Dealers franchise agreement. This does not mean that they (American Honda, not the Dealer) won't cover some things, it means that they don't have to. Manynew GL1800 Trikershave screwed themselves by not understanding the stated warranty.

My initial suggestion was that Honda should get into the game.
I followed-up with my opinion as to why they will not.
Somewhere back in '87-'88 Mother Honda swore never to build a 3-wheeled vehicle for the masses again.
I'm all for Trikes. I'm all for Honda having a Factory Trike... and I think yours looks beautiful. :)
I see Honda never again putting themselves on the witness stand though. :(
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SpiderBob wrote:
CaptainMidnight85 , yes that is the act, that is news to me as I've done things to my Motorhome and truck and although they would not warranty the item changed others items they have and did. Why would bikes be any different? tjradphilly, I had had engine work done, but they had to show that the questioned work effected the warrantied item. I had a cam put in and I had crankshaft problems - long story short, they replaced the crankshaft but not the cam. :?
I was talking about Major Mods that can affect the entire system.I didn't mean to come across as if any mod would cause a warranty void if I did it wasn't meant that way. I agree you usually void the warranty on the item you changed provided it does not affect the rest of the warranty it wouldn't matter.
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