Ok oldtoys, I'll put in black and white for you. I have a Harley Davidson in my garage that will outrun, outlast, out brake, out handle, and outdo in any way, anything Honda has ever made (in a sport/cruiser). Its a VROD. Powerplant designed by Porsche, watercooled, and yes chicks will still jump on the back on almost any given weekend (even though thats not my cup of tea, I am married) The reason there are so many Harley's on craigs list and ebay is because a motorcycle is a luxury item to most people and the first thing they sacrifice, not a 40mpg vehicle driven by crumudgeonly old men to save money on gas (sound familiar?) Yes Americans workers were paid to build our Goldwings since the early 80's but the vast majority of profit went straight to Japan. I am not a flagwaver though so thats not a problem for me, I believe in competetition from abroad. It makes our products better. Don't forget Harley has the powerplant from the VROD at their disposal and could put in in an Ultra Classic at any time. If they do, you would have a Goldwing killer for sure. As far as Harley being overpriced, last time I checked a brand new Ultra was around 23k and I was just in a Honda showroom and a 2009 Goldwing was 24k. As I stated before, I love my Goldwing and I love my VROD. 2 machines that serve 2 completely different purposes. If you want to be an instigator and incite the passions of Goldwing riders that also appreciate a Harley, its your right but be prepared to be called out on it each and every time.