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Hi Folks,

I'm new to the forum, riding a kaw. and am searching for my first wing. I looked at one yesterday and would like some feedback from the forum. Here's the owners description....

"GL1500 mechanically perfect condition, looks like on a scale of 1 - 10 is a 9 . New rear brakes, plugs and fluids. 55K on odometer but changes daily as I ride it. Lots of extras including Firecreek guage set, cornering lights, new OEM seat and backrest. I also have the custom seat Russell seat and backrest which I took off earlier this year. New battery in May '09. Highway boards, heel toe shifter, ring of fire, Rivco airhorns, ISO grips, front fork lights, flashing brake lights, trunk rack, CB, driving lights, cornering lights, receiver hitch and includes Martini Beige cyclemate luggage trailer with upgraded LED lights all the way around."

I'm not saying the guy is dishonest, just that my perception is different than his. This is what I saw when going over the bike ....

The onboard air didn't work. "It worked fine last week." He thinks it's the switch, which he says is 10-20 on ebay. I feel I have to assume it's the worst case scenario, which I guess would be the compressor? A lot more than $20.

The fire creek gauge showed the charging status. The whole time we were looking at it, the charge never broke 13.9. I was of the impression that 14-14.2 was normal. I only got to do a short test drive (no plates). Even when I "got on it" in every gear, it never went above that 13.9. Is that normal? Are these gauges accurate? He claims to have ridden the bike last week, so I'm assuming the battery is fully charged and not sucking juice to charge to capacity.

There seemed to be slack in the throttle cable. Maybe 1/8 to 1/4 turn before it responded. I assume that's not a major ordeal to change?

The transmission sounded a little "rough" to me in the lower gears. It was hard to tell, as I had a helmet on (stupid helmet laws). The only thing I can use to describe it would be somewhat like a worn bearing or ujoint. Not one that was totally shot, just not nice and smooth.

He claimed the tires were 50 %, I thought they would get me through the inspection and maybe a season of riding. I'm figuring $1000 to replace with quality tires? (Tires and labor.)

He tested the cb (he had a newer wing in his garage he was storing for a friend.) He sent from the '88 to the newer one no problem, but said to go from the newer one to the "88 it would just "squawk" because there was an issue with the newer bike's cb. Hmmm.

He said it was an aspencade. I never saw an aspencade that didn't say aspencade on the trunk. Did they come that way?

Cosmetically, my perception was a 7. I realize it's 20 years old, but there was a few serious deep scratches. The storage compartments were two tone originally, but the 2nd color had "faded and peeled off". It was totally gone, but the "shadow" of it remained. So there was a shadow of a pin stripe around the outsideedge with a shadow of a color block in the middle of all the storage compartments. It appeared to me that there was a fair amount of what looked to be "straight line" very fine scratches, as though someone tried to compound or maybe wet sand the shadows away. He wouldn't admit to having dropped it, yetsaid he had replaced the chrome portion of the front fairing (or is it all one piece?), as well as other cosmetic pieces, all on the right side. Hmmmm.

The windshield had also been replaced and someone had cuta hole in it and installed a vent. He claimed it worked well but whoeverdid it just slopped silicone around it (the vent). Not a very neat installation.

I'm planning to call a local shop to get parts and labor estimates on a compressor and an alternator, just for reference. If someone on the forum has an estimate, I'd like to hear that as well, so I'll know if the shop is out of line.

The trailer was cosmetically rough, but appeared to be generally solid and serviceable. (No photos of the trailer.)

I attached the photos I have (kicking myself for not bringing my camera and taking my own "up close and personal" shots.) The bike looks awesome in the photos, as none of the flaws show.

He's asking $5000, but says he can move a few hundred maybe. He also said he would throw in the custom seat he took off which is still in excellent shape. He took it off because it was wider, he has a short inseam and was on his tiptoes when on the bike as it was. He's only had it a year, but wants to dump it so he can buy the newer (I think 97) wing he's storing. Claims it's 4" lower to the ground. Is this true? I ask only because I'm trying to determine the credibility of the things he's telling me vs. "yankin' my chain".

Opinions?

Thanks folks.
 

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1) Air not working - plan for the worst. Everyone says it's a $20 fix, and it worked yesterday. That's crap.

2) 13.9 - depends on where he's got the voltmeter hooked up - could be just fine - as long as it's not dropping, and goes up after start, you're good in my book.

3) Slack in the throttle cable? Seems okay to me - I'd have to walk out to a 1500 and measure myself.

4) Dunno. I'd have to hear it myself.

5) Half that price for tires with labor. $500 can get it done. Not $1,000.

6) Gonna really use the CB? If so need to get it tested, or assume the worst and a $150 repair bill from a specialist.

7) 88/89 there is no such thing as an Aspencade. The Aspencade came out in 90, although the 88/89 has the same features. It's just semantics. Technically, it's a GL-1500.

8) Sucks when people don't take care of their stuff.

9) Sucks when people do crappy work - it's new windshield time, unless you want to drive around with the silicone special. $200, you do the work, don't take it to a dealer.

10) I don't value trailers - so - my valuation is ONLY the wing - he's a thousand high. Maybe that trailer makes 4,500? I don't know trailer prices at all. Do you WANT the trailer? That's another factor.
 

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Update.........

I called two dealers.

Dealer # 1

comp $440

alt $460

Wouldn't even guesstimate labor charges. Labor $85 an hour.

Dealer # 2

comp $480 labor $400

alt $510 $1200-1500 He said on this bike it was the stator and you have to pull the engine to do it!?

rgbeard I will probably never use the cb, however, if someone tells me it's mechanically perfect, I expect everything to work. If I'm buying something, I also spend some time sizing up the individual and whether or not I can trust the validity of their statements. If I think someone is totally full of it, I'll just walk away.

I do want the trailer. Ride and camp is my plan. I did find one trailer on ebay that looked pretty clean. $500 starting bid, buy it now $750.



I was thinking less than $4,000 would be a good deal.Four would be okay. Forty five hundred would be pushing the limit. Five is out of the question. But I'm clueless on goldwings. I was suprised at the parts prices.

Thanks for the input.
 

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i don't think the motor has to be removed on a 1500 wing to service the alternator. 1000, 1100, and 1200 wing engines have to be removed to service the stator
 

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I'm by far no 1500 expert but I do know that the alternator on the 1500's is an external that can be removed and replaced with the engine still in the frame. So that dealer that stated the engine would have to be pulled to change it is one I'd stay far away from.

Read your post again and I have to recommend a big drop in price or walk away from it. I'm not going to say the seller is a lair but he sounds like he stretches the truth quit a bit. Having said this I'd also be leery of how all the additional electrical goodies were wired up to the system. I hate nothing more on a bike than a butchered up electrical system.
 

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i would stay away from that bike, the price is 2 high and there are a bunch of lies on it. i bet there will me many others to look at so dont rush!
 

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I wouldn't believe a word the guy says. Just his dishonesty is enough to raise a flag. Without a big drop in price, I walk.

And you should be at least over 14 volts, especially, at higher RPM's. Mine shows 14.2 at idle, stock alternator.
 

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Ditto on the voltage here... 12.7 off and 14.6+ running. Lights and everything on mine only dips to 14.3 running.

I would take a walk as well on this. It that time of year people are dumping them off left and right at killer prices. Wait for the a better price on one that doesnt have so many "I wonders" included. If they guy isnt offering up information with the obviously wrong stuff, then he wont be offering up information about what you cant see...

Just my 2cents worth, Best of luck either way ya go...

Peace!
 

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I just reread your first post, and then your find.

$3500 might be a good deal, that means you will maybe be south of $5000 by the time you get it all right.

However, all you need to do is watch eBay or craigslist http://www.searchtempest.com and you will be able to find plenty of creme puffs that have actually been well cared for.

I vote NO on this one.

The poor paint condition alone is enough to make me turn around. No thanks.
 

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You're getting the infamous 1200 Stator job (complete engine out) confused with a 1500 alternator replacement. (simple task, much less money.)
 

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lonewolf_one wrote:
If I'm buying something, I also spend some time sizing up the individual and whether or not I can trust the validity of their statements. If I think someone is totally full of it, I'll just walk away.

I've walked away from many good deals from this alone.



This doesn't sound like a good deal though, so I'd've probably not met him in the first place.
 

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IF you have a bad feeling, pay attention to it and take a walk. Your getting that feeling for a reason. Dishonesty is dishonesty, if you sniffed it, there is probably more lurking. Lots of deals on Craigslist, find one you feel good about. You have already made a long list of problems to deal with, not a good what to start.
 

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This may be a case of "When in doubt, DON'T whip it out"...
 

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William_86 wrote:
i would stay away from that bike, the price is 2 high and there are a bunch of lies on it. i bet there will me many others to look at so dont rush!
I will have to agree with William_86 on this one,there is plenty ofbikes out there...
 

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The "I's" have it folks. I'm walkin' away. Thanks for all the great input. The search continues....
 

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Hello from the other end of the state, I have a son lives in hamden just off state st. You were smart to walk away from that bike, it wasn't for you, when you find the right bike you will know it, when the problems don't seem insurmountable and you feel just like you fit in the seat thats the bike for you. Also remember you are in connecticut and prices will be a little higher then most of the rest of the world, and I'm not talking taxes those are unreal. Good luck in the hunt.
 

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Tires, windshield are mostly maintenance items. Windshields can be scratched, dull, etc. I bought a new one for $150. Tires are $400, installed by a dealer. Alternator was replaced on my bike by PO for a lot less than $1200.
Somehow, I missed what year the bike is? Miles? It must be there, but I don't see it.
I would be more concerned about the air pump, transmission noises and cosmetics. Its a ton of money to paint all the tupperware on these things!
FWIW, book price on a mid 90's 1500 in excellent condition
is around $5000. Harbor Freight is selling a motorcycle luggage trailer for low money, brand new. Check them out.
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=66771
 

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The "I's" have it folks. I'm walkin' away. Thanks for all the great input. The search continues....
That makes me much more at ease on this deal, NOT!

I have been bitten every time I bought something when my tummy had that little niggling feeling in it.

You don't feel super good about it, walk off. :cool:
 

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You couldn't have given me that bike. Biggest factor? Misleading owner. Who knows what other major issue he's hiding. If he's not up front and honest on the little stuff, don't walk away; RUN!
 

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Okay Folks,

Two more "in the wings" (pun intended)

First contestant (and the one I'm initially leaning towards)


Honda GoldWing (93) - Excellent condition, TONS of extras!! - $4800

’93 Honda Gold Wing Aspencade, black with tasteful pinstripes (can be removed without damaging finish). Excellent condition (82k miles), ready to ride across the country. More pictures and video of it starting and running available upon request. For sale only, no trades please.
Fully loaded with all the best aftermarket accessories (tons of receipts):
• Progressive suspension
• Cobra exhaust (mellow and full sound, adjustable baffles)
• Crossfire alternator with potentiometer on dash
• Gel battery
• Russel Day Long saddle (original included)
• Driving lights (BRIGHT!)
• Air horn
• K&N Air filter
• Driver and passenger floor boards
• Driver and passenger highway pegs
• Full metal guards for engine and saddle bags

Plus all the usual Gold Wing goodies (air adjustable suspension, AM/FM tape stereo with headset intercom hookups, 1.5L flat six motor, disc brakes, cruise control, fitted luggage, reverse, hot/cold air vents,…)

!!PACKAGE DEAL!! Comes with:
• Service manual and wiring diagram
• Four helmets: 2x Arai full face, 1 Arai ¾, 1 Bell ¾, comes with intercom setup
• 2x Force leather riding jackets (sizes 36 and 42)
• 2x Leather chaps
• Tank bag with map case and small side bags

Clean title in hand.
 

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