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Hey guys. Installed new led lights to my gl 1000 anyone have input on what electronic flasher relay is best to keep the lights from randomly flashing.
thx in advance.
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Nitrowing
I ger ones with a twiddly knob that lets me adjust the speed.
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Led on the 1000 is not so good an idea as the generator runs flat out all the time so the regulator and battery cook if power is not used elswhere
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Bryanlj said:
Led on the 1000 is not so good an idea as the generator runs flat out all the time so the regulator and battery cook if power is not used elswhere
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In general the lights aren't being used while riding and certainly the indicators and relay are going to make no difference :LOL:
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Bryanlj said:
Led on the 1000 is not so good an idea as the generator runs flat out all the time so the regulator and battery cook if power is not used elswhere
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What do you suppose the regulator is regulating? Maybe it's just there to add more weight to the motorcycle.so it hugs the ground when you ride!
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The regulator failed more often on UK bikes where we could turn the lights off, the generator itself runs at 100% all the time and the regulator has to safely pass all the un neaded amps/volts after the battery was fully charged to ground safely which causes a lot of heat, guess what most electronics dont like heat and excessive heat shortenes the life.
Never wondered why you can get aftermarket stators for the four pot wings
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Bryanlj said:
The regulator failed more often on UK bikes where we could turn the lights off, the generator itself runs at 100% all the time and the regulator has to safely pass all the un neaded amps/volts after the battery was fully charged to ground safely which causes a lot of heat, guess what most electronics dont like heat and excessive heat shortenes the life.
Never wondered why you can get aftermarket stators for the four pot wings
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First of all these bikes don't have generators. They all have ALTERNATORS. Your next insinuation of the alternator running flat out at 100% all the time is also incorrect as the voltage and current vary with the rotating speed of the rotor. Thus the need for a regulator which is built in along with the rectifier. (I hope you are aware of the difference between a generator and alternator. It will help explaining why there is a rectifier.) As far as replacement stators for the four cylinder Goldwings, they aren't the only vehicles that had some trouble with manufacturers quality control. My 1999 Gl1500 had a bad alternator which was replace by a Compufire unit after six years of service. To this day it is still going strong. You are correct about electronics not functioning well with excessive heat. However I'm fairly certain that Honda's engineers have taken that into account when they design their products and they should be robust enough to dissipate any unwanted heat.
I would be interested to hear your thoughts as to your home wiring and why your place of residence has not gone up in flames based on your logic about electricity. Unless, of course, you either have all your electrical devices plugged in and running 100% of the time or you live in a cave.
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First of all these bikes don't have generators. They all have ALTERNATORS. Your next insinuation of the alternator running flat out at 100% all the time is also incorrect as the voltage and current vary with the rotating speed of the rotor. Thus the need for a regulator which is built in along with the rectifier. (I hope you are aware of the difference between a generator and alternator. It will help explaining why there is a rectifier.) As far as replacement stators for the four cylinder Goldwings, they aren't the only vehicles that had some trouble with manufacturers quality control. My 1999 Gl1500 had a bad alternator which was replace by a Compufire unit after six years of service. To this day it is still going strong. You are correct about electronics not functioning well with excessive heat. However I'm fairly certain that Honda's engineers have taken that into account when they design their products and they should be robust enough to dissipate any unwanted heat.
I would be interested to hear your thoughts as to your home wiring and why your place of residence has not gone up in flames based on your logic about electricity. Unless, of course, you either have all your electrical devices plugged in and running 100% of the time or you live in a cave.
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We are discussing a 4 cyl wing which does have an AC generator, not an alternator (which is and internally rectified ac generator). And it does produce 100% {RMP dependent} and is regulated by an external shunt regulator/rectifier. Do your research before chiming in on something you know nothing about.
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We are discussing a 4 cyl wing which does have an AC generator, not an alternator (which is and internally rectified ac generator). And it does produce 100% {RMP dependent} and is regulated by an external shunt regulator/rectifier. Do your research before chiming in on something you know nothing about.
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Isn't this what the G1000 uses?
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Isn't this what the G1000 uses?
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No, that was used in the prototype GL950 but because of cornering clearance and fuel mileage concerns, they changed to the stator, which has gained such a bad reputation that Honda engineers now wish they had not gone through with the change.
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Probably every Japanese motorcycle made used the stator/regulator/rectifier system until the GL1500 got an external alternator.
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To be pedantic everything that produces electricity is a GENERATOR, and usualy comes as either a dynamo or alternator.
Now even a dynamo produces ac in the windings that is converted to dc by the brushgear, its a very complicated explanation that im sure can be googled, an alternator changes ac to dc with a rectifier using diodes which have no moving parts.
In a dynamo the brushes have to carry the full charging current and so need to be large and hard whilst alternators can be permag and vary output on revs or have a dc fed rotor which needs a lot less current needing tiny brushes.
I pdi'd one of the first GL 1000 in the UK and there were a few "teething" problems Honda said nothing about like the crown wheel/shaft spline drive


Hope that helps a bit
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Invictaslave4 said:
Hey guys. Installed new led lights to my gl 1000 anyone have input on what electronic flasher relay is best to keep the lights from randomly flashing.
thx in advance.
imvictaslave
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Applying any flasher module specified for LED lights would be much more safer and keep the lights from flashing.
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