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I feel like the person throwing the tuna in the shark tank! :cool:

Here ya go!!! http://www.motorcycledaily.com/28august09_frontbrake.htm

Most of us here have linked brakes with some of the older models being exceptions. I just shake my head every time I hear the HD person preaching. "Don't use that front brake or she'll throw ya over the bars".

I think all our dads told us that about 10-speeds when we were 10yo. These riders drag it in to play with 400-800# motorcycles, and try to use only rear brake (typically about 20-30% of the braking power?).

I've had more than one convo with HD / Cruiser riders that has me shaking my head as I walk away. I sure hope they're not behind me.
 

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Yet another example of how people are bad about taking responsibility for their own actions. Its a sickness that is ruining this country...
 

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That shop might as well be prepared to open the cash registar . There in for a negative flow of cash ... or there insurance company at least .
 

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you are right about the idea about not using the front brake is just wrong

you are wrong to associate that thinking with HD riders
 

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UBarW wrote:
Yet another example of how people are bad about taking responsibility for their own actions. Its a sickness that is ruining this country...
AMEN.....(are you even allowed to say that in this country anymore either?)



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Ya can't fix stupid...but I'm probably being politically incorrect in say that. The A.S.S. (Anti Stupid Society) will probably want to sue me for even thinking he was stupid. Jeezzz...what was I thinking?
 

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rcmatt007 wrote:
you are right about the idea about not using the front brake is just wrong

you are wrong to associate that thinking with HD riders
Okay - I'll take that one on the chin and change my statement - I associate it with many Cruiser riders. Not just newbs either.
 

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Just plain interesting.
 

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Take that rearbrake idea and head on down to the bottom of the Gunnison in Co. and see if you can stop when you get to the bottom!!!. Use the front ... assist with the back.
 

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"He ought to sue his parents for giving birth to a moron". John







I think that about sums it up!:cool:
 

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***Not legal advice, or even sure to be the slightest bit accurate....just my 2cents worth....


If their theory is product liability, the product was defective, but did not cause the accident, his improper use of the front brake caused the accident.....

If their theory is negligence they had a duty to provide him a safe bike. They breached that duty. (his duty to check the saftey of his own bike is only mitigation to the damages caused by their breach if damages are found....) The next question is did that breach cause the accident, the answer is likely no, it sounds like the rider's improper use of his front brake caused the accident. However, there is still a question of proximate cause, could the dealership have forseen that he could have improperly used his front brake if they didn't provide him a properly working back brake? I think the answer to that would have to be yes, unless there were a mandantory Rider Saftey Course which would then allow you to assume he knew how to properly brake with he front and rear brakes.

Moral of this story.....

Take the course, check on dealerships work, and as Shakespear put it "Kill all the Lawyers first"

CP,J.D. (Esquire)

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as a former tech and cervise manager. the only thing i can see is that the tech did not check the brake or test drive the machine before giving back to the customer.



as far as teh rider is all i can say is " Get him out of the gene pool now"
 

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Quote from comments in article





1. This is a perfect example of a typical cruiser rider, more money than skill.
2. This is also a perfect example of the quality of work I expect at a dealer. I NEVER take my bike to a dealer and have just purchased my own tire changing machine.
3. This is the typical American response of which I am embarrassed to associate, "I screwed up, someone else needs to pay. It wasn't my fault."
 

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As stated in the article, rider safety course is now mandantory in Texas before getting M endorsement. I for one aplaud this.
 

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timkin wrote:
as a former tech and cervise manager. the only thing i can see is that the tech did not check the brake or test drive the machine before giving back to the customer.



as far as teh rider is all i can say is " Get him out of the gene pool now"
Had a Honda shop do the no brake thing to me once but i caught it before I even left the parking lot. This guy is just another example of someone who has no business on a bike and is almost certain to be dismemebered or killed on a bike.
 

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Amazin' I got my first motorcycle in 1959 and no one told me not to use the front brakes. Foolishly I figured since it had some they were there to be used. Not to mention I graduated to that bike after two years riding a Cushman scooter that had no front brake. I knew how well that worked. Oddly enough though I was foolish enough to squeeze that Triumph's right lever I never went down because of that.
 

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After having ridden home friday after a front brake failure, Man I miss the fronts, the backs are marginal to stop the old girl. Jay
 
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