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ok well on the us sites i often read about MMO n ATF use

i have an 92 gl1500 ........littlejohn can vouch for it ........how are you old boy ?????

any way has any one used this stuff does it work ?????
 

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If MMO is in reference to Marvel Mystery Oil, I've used it in many auto engines and fuel systems. My experience has all been good, ie: oil control (seal benefits), and as a fuelsystem cleaner. I've heard of some folks using it in conjunction with ATF in their front forks to help soften and prolong the internal seals/o-rings. I never tried that application...
 

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Good advice from Shooter & Mr1200... I am not an advocate of additives (whew)!!! However, I have been known to use MMO in some vehicles over the last 40 yrs. It won't hurt anything. As for fork oil, (whew again)!! I follow the maintenance manual and if it calls for ATF, that's what goes in.

There have been many, many posts on this site about both subjects, and if you just do a search, you'll see it all. The main issue with any type of lubricant or cleaner is to change it often and use it as recommended by the manufacturer.

The gurus and riders on this site (including Redwing) "may he ride forever," will supply you with plenty of info and examples over the next few days... :dude:
 

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I wouldn't recommendMarvel for hair oil, I used it for years and now I don't have much hair left. Once I quit using it though I could wear a hat. Couldn't in the old days, with the stuff on my hair my hat kept sliding off.

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ATF ??? :?

Sorry - this is all new to me - trying to keep it all straight.
 

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Yo!!! ATF is not Alcohol / Tyrants / Fluzies.... It's automatic transmission fluid...

This technical stuff can really get confusing... :action:
 
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The gurus and riders on this site (including Redwing) "may he ride forever," will supply you with plenty of info and examples over the next few days... :dude:
Hey Renegade, :waving:Thanks for including me along with the "Gurus" but I would be terrified if someone asked me a question about the :15red:eek:r:18red:

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Hey TheBreeze, :waving:Your very welcome to the forum. :clapper:Dont be afraid to ask these experts plenty of questions, :jumper:and dont ever think a question is silly.:stumped: The motto here is the only silly question is the one you dont or didn't ask. :baffled:

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thanx for welcoming me

mightily impressed with site

ive met litlejohn in da flesh lol not sure bout rest of you
 

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ok enough wisecracks was wonderin if addin to fuel did any good but after gettin my wing back together today after servicin she runnin sweet as a nut
 

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MMO in the fuel tank will make the engine smoke a bit, or quite a lot if you put too much in.
 

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Hi Folks

Found this very interesting article on Oil Additives, its well worth a read before putting any of these additives in your engine/tank/underpants. Don't be put off by the Ford Scorpio reference :D......
http://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/snakeoil.htm

Detergents And Solvents
Bardahl, Rislone and Marvel Mystery Oil, instead offer things like "quieter lifters," "reduced oil burning" and a "cleaner engine."

As a general rule of thumb these products had their place and were at least moderately useful on older automobile and motorcycle engines of the Fifties and Sixties, but are basically unneeded on the more efficient engine designs of the past two decades.

For those who can't be bothered reading the whole article The conclusion is great: :clapper:

In Conclusion
The major oil companies are some of the richest, most powerful and aggressive corporations in world. They own multi- million dollar research facilities manned by some of the best chemical engineers money can hire. It is probably safe to say that any one of them has the capabilities and resources at hand in marketing, distribution, advertising, research and product development equal to 20 times that of any of the independent additive companies. It therefore stands to reason that if any of these additive products were actu ally capable of improving the capabilities of engine lubricants, the major oil companies would have been able to determine that and to find some way to cash in on it.

Yet of all the oil additives we found, none carried the name or endorsement of any of the major oil producers.

In addition, all of the major vehicle and engine manufacturers spend millions of dollars each year trying to increase the longevity of their products, and millions more paying off warranty claims when their products fail. Again, it only stands to reason that if they thought any of these additives would increase the life or improve the performance of their engines, they would be actively using and selling them - or at least endorsing their use.

Instead, many of them advise against the use of these additives and, in some cases, threaten to void their warranty coverage if such things are found to be used in their products.

In any story of this nature, absolute "facts" are virtually impossible to come by. Opinions abound. Evidence that points one direction or the other is avail able, but has to be carefully ferreted out, and is not always totally reliable or completely verifiable.

In this environment, conclusions reached by known, knowledgeable experts in the field must be given a certain amount of weight. Conclusions reached by unknown, unidentifiable sources must be discounted almost totally. That which is left must be weighed, one side against the other, in an attempt to reach a "reasonable" conclusion.

In the case of oil additives, there is a considerable volume of evidence against their effectiveness. This evidence comes from well-known and identifiable expert sources, including independent research laboratories, state universities, major engine manufacturers, and even NASA.

Against this rather formidable barrage of scientific research, additive makers offer not much more than their own claims of effectiveness, plus questionable and totally unscientific personal testimonials. Though the purveyors of these products state they have studies from other independent laboratories supporting their claims, they refuse to identify the labs or provide copies of the research. The only test results they will share are those from their own testing departments, which must, by their very nature, be taken with a rather large grain of salt.


It would seem very clear, stick to themanufacturers recommendedgrade of Oil and change it regularly.


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Bart, that's an interesting article and I'd agree with most of it. But where it says "It would seem very clear, stick to themanufacturers recommendedgrade of Oil and change it regularly" I would take with a pinch of salt. Honda tells us to use only their expensive Honda oil in the Goldwing, but we had an article posted here months backabout extensive testing on various oils in motorcycles and the Honda stuff came out almost worst of the lot. Can't find the thread now, Redwing will probably remember where it is. :D
 
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But where it says "It would seem very clear, stick to themanufacturers recommendedgrade of Oil and change it regularly" I would take with a pinch of salt. Can't find the thread now, Redwing will probably remember where it is. :D
Hey FitzAl, :waving:I will keep you "Gurus" on track. :clapper: This is where a lot of that stuff ye are talking about is, http://www.goldwingfacts.com/forums/view_topic.php?id=189&forum_id=48&highlight=Engine+oils

http://www.goldwingfacts.com/forums/view_topic.php?id=597&forum_id=1&highlight=Engine+oils

I hope I got all that correct, such a long address. :whip:

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