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Thanks guys. One thing I have learned in the past few years is that you really don't know where the old train is heading till it gets there.
If it works out, I might be able to make a cameo visit but I really can't say yet.
No one has mentioned Fletchie and where he would be staying if such a visit were possible. I can't believe no one has considered the pets yet. Also is this place the ONLY place up there? I haven't heard anything about possible overflow accommodations yet.
Anyway... I'm sure I won't be there long enough to do live feeds like N5 had. I'm a little surprised no one did that at N6 considering how much people liked having that available. Canadians... pfft.
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Hadn't thought about pets Rudy. My bust! Thanks for the nudge. I'll check and post what i find out. Overflow is probably not going to be an issue, we will know more about the needs in a few months and react accordingly! Good to have you chime in!


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I know that pets are allowed in the campground area, because I called and asked after this thread was started. Will be reserving a spot in August. Hope there are still some available.
 

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With minimal number of campsites nearby, can there be an overflow area near the campsite and/or near the Hotel?
 

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First let me say that Bernie and I and the growing team of helpers are VERY excited about NASSIR 7 and I assure you that we are trying to cover as many bases as possible between now and next July. I am also sure that we have not and will not think of everything. Let me throw a few numbers at you. I'm sure these numbers aren't exact but they should be close. At NASSIR 4 I think we had maybe 10 campers (I was one of them) and less than 20 rooms. At NASSIR 5 we had about 7-8 campers (I was one of them too) and maybe 30 rooms or slightly more. At NASSIR 6 I believe there was even less camping and rooms (correct me if I'm wrong). The campground that belongs to the Village which is 2 miles down the road has 10 tent sites and 10 RV sites. We also have a large number of rooms blocked out in the lodge. We are currently in week one of the official posting and to my knowledge only one person has actually reserved a campsite and 24 rooms have been reserved. At this point, even though we expect the turn out to be higher than previous NASSIRs we aren't even sure we will need any overflow and to be honest we are trying to avoid it as it represents a logistics issue with people traveling any distance to get to/from the events. Let's give it some time, we will watch the reservations closely and if it looks like we are going to have lodging issues (camping/rooms) we will do our best to determine what the actual need is and secure additional facilities as needed. If you are really concerned about overflow I would suggest that you make your reservation sooner rather than later and avoid that situation all together. If participation is that high where we have an overflow problem then in my opinion that it is a very good problem to have! We will come up with a solution.
 

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I can't imagine Fontana Village running out of accommodations, even if it's not the accommodations that were set aside specifically for this event, there is literally 100 other places to accommodate any over flow necessary right there on property.

For anyone who has stayed in other places in that area, and trust me, I can speak from experience as I have spent at least 2 weekends a month on average out there for the past 2 years. The Motels in the immediate area, are lack luster, most filthy little Biker hole in the walls that profit from the local riders. To my knowledge, there are only 2 camp Grounds worth staying at out that way, each of which would be at least an hours drive in either direction from Fontana Village. Now that doesn't mean there aren't other places out there, there are........ but in my experience and opinion, a waste of money.

John (Halfling) and I, along with our families have stayed at and ate at Fontana Village a few times over the past year and have never been disappointing........ Well..... OK, Once we were, but it took one phone call to the office and it was fixed, no questions asked, and sometimes the fried green tomato's are red........ But you won't get better stuffed trout anywhere.

My point to this...... There would be no need to look elsewhere for accommodations, as Fontana Village has more than enough of everything we would need for this event.
 

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I'm sure your team is looking at all the angles for NASSIR 7 and smoothing out all the wrinkles. You folks who can visit the area at a moments notice, are blessed. It's those who don't live close enough have to ask questions are just trying to find info that's not on the internet. We have to sometimes read between the lines to get so-so answers.

Just a few possible problems I know of that can make of break a good time at NASSIR 7.
I looked at the campground map and what I saw was really disturbing. There's not many ''clean'' campgrounds close to Fontana and the 2 that are are rather expensive.
The Dragon draws a lot of out of state riders who do camp and book Hotel/Motel accommodations. What I have read and heard is The Dragon area is becoming more crowded these days and that eats up some rooms and campsites.

So far I've chimed in twice here and feel like my head is gnawed on for bringing up ideas/points. If that's makes the team uncomfortable, I'll just sit back and keep my typing to myself until the very last minute. But that's usually too late to do anything about any thing.

I'll be 10-10 on the side and 10-23. :waiting:
 

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Floyd, Sorry if it was my post that makes you feel you didn't get an answer, I tried to give my Honest, Unbiased opinion, and I am not on "The Team". Halfling can tell you that I was not thrilled with everything about Fontana Village, so John gave me the challenge of finding a better place....... There isn't any, unless you want to spend huge money and stay in populated areas. If you have searched for other camp grounds out in that area, then you know, that What Fontana Charges for Camp sites is Cheap, even though there is no discounts offered for the sites. Reservations made now, Only requires payment of one nights stay, so if you reserved today, your cost would be $15 or $30 depending on your needs preference. Same with the Hotel Rooms that they have blocked off for us, Reserve for the duration of your stay, but only have to pay for one night up front. This gives everyone all year to call and have another night paid for when you can so by next year the stay is paid for (thats what Im doing). I hope that helps, if not Im sure someone will pop up with more info that may.
 

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John (jobe)
I understood your post, it's not taken wrong, and the info was good.
:waving:

Unless you build the perfect place, there isn't one.
We make do with what we got/get and try to work around the/any problems.
 

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John (jobe)
I understood your post, it's not taken wrong, and the info was good.
:waving:

Unless you build the perfect place, there isn't one.
We make do with what we got/get and try to work around the/any problems.
Good! And I agree, but this place is about as perfect for an event like this as it gets, again, I was challenged with looking for one and there isn't one.

I understand Cost and not having money to just blow all the time, But the ideal stay would be on property, at the lodge. $89 a night for what you get is great for that area. I was out there 2 weeks ago and stayed in a dive motel that should have been remodeled in 1965 but wasn't, we paid $74 and luckily we brought our own pillows. Nothing could be done about the ice cold shower.

I checked the web site for Fontana Village and it says camping for Tents is $20 to $30 per night. I'm not sure where the $15 price came from. Maybe someone could clear that up?

Not sure exactly were you live Floyd, or how far you would be traveling but I will be out there camping the week after Labor day weekend. Come on out and I'll give you the grand tour of the area. It's beautiful........ As a buddy of mine said a couple weeks ago, Almost life changing. But that would give you an idea of the vast area that Fontana Village takes up, and the whole area in general.
 

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I checked the web site for Fontana Village and it says camping for Tents is $20 to $30 per night. I'm not sure where the $15 price came from. Maybe someone could clear that up?
This must have been a recent price change, I've got a printed page that says $15 - $20 for tent sites. As a matter of fact if you pull down their current "brochure" and look at page 4 you will see the $15 - $20 pricing I am referring to. I suspect that the brochure hasn't been updated yet. We didn't lock in any campground pricing so their price is certainly subject to change.

Update: I just reserved one of the camp sites online for 4 nights (July 7, 2014 thru July 11, 2014) and it gave me a rate of $16.92 per night after taxes and charged me a $30 deposit. So apparently they haven't updated their reservation system with new pricing yet either.
 

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We have so many great roads to ride and such a beautiful location, I am in a quandry where to start planning the many rides available to us. My first thought was to enlist the help of local "Wingers" who know the roads and area to be Ride Captains and tail gunners; giving attendees the freedom to fully enjoy their vacation. Also, having been on several bike rallys with over 100 bikes present, I know there is a lot of talent within the group to choose from.
So I want to ask those of you who would like to be Ride Leaders to chime in and let me know. I would rather accomodate a forum member before sourcing outside help.
I would also like to ask if anyone has suggestions or specific areas where you would like to ride. We will try to accomodate everyone's wish list to the best of our ability and resources.
Also, are there other activities that you want to participate in such as practicing some of the riding skills tests the Motorcycle Safety Foundation teaches? They can be set up rather easily, especially the newest ones they are starting to offer and can be fun and educational.
We have plenty of time to fine tune our riding events and with everyone's early involvement we can offer something for all our friends!
For me, this is a special opportunity to meet and become friends with all those that I have enjoyed communicating with via this wonderful forum. Rudy for example is a wonderful friend whom I never met. He was so helpful to me when I owned my '82 GL1100! I hope he will be one of the many there that I will finally get to meet!
July 2014 will be here before we know it! I feel honored to play a small part in bringing everyone together in my part of the world to enjoy the passion our bikes allow us to share!
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I dropped out being a lead because in one of your emails, you didn't say it was a thought, you said that is what was going to happen. I spent a great deal of my own time and a great deal of expense traveling out there to learn those roads looking forward to showing my friends Part of the Great State for which I live, and how fortunate I am to have this so close to me to enjoy, something that I am very proud of. The bubble was burst when you were bringing in outside friends to do this versus someone like my self that you and Halfling brought into the fold a year ago, supposedly for things like this. Disappointing for me........ Very Disappointing......
 

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Jobe05 (John) I hope that an inadvertent choice of words on my part has now ruined what I hope will be a great event for everyone. I wish you would have said something to me after reading my post. This could have been remedied very easily, and still can. You already know that we need all the help we can get so, I would be honored if you would be a Ride Captain for NASSIR 7! In fact John, you probably have a much better idea of how the rides need to be planned than me because of your many trips to the area. Please let us not waste your time and effort familiarizing yourself with the area. It isn't too late to change your disappointment into someting very possitive for all your friends that will be attending. I want to thank you for allowing me to know how you feel about my post. It was not intended to hurt anyone's feelings or leave anyone out from doing what he or she wants to do to make NASSIR 7 better. Share your thoughts on the rides with me and others you think will make Good Ride Captains. Together with my knowledge of the area, we can put together several days of wonderful riding. I promise that I will not be a Ride Captain though. I don't want to be broken down on the side of the road again like the last time we rode together! You were a life saver then and you will be now if you will excuse my poor choice of words earlier! Thank you again for allowing me to know your feelings so I can assure you that was not my intent!
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good riding ain't hard to find out there and maybe we just need some ride maps printed off and available for everyone to just choose a route and a small group can get together and just take off and have fun. my experience with organized group rides hasn't always been pleasant and usually never work out without problems but a small group of 5 or 6 bikes can cruise around all day and stop as often as they like and enjoy the day without anyone being frustrated at the end of the day.

here is just some of the examples of some good day trips and I'm sure that there are other folks on this forum that know plenty of other routes that are as good or better. I am just a rookie out there but have enjoyed riding that area last August and again this year in June and I have yet to find a road that wasn't worth riding so just go get lost and then find your way back to the hotel at the end of the day.

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Beenshot, Not having attended a NASSIR event I don't know if scheduled rides were held or groups got together and rode on their own. Certainly riding in smaller groups is easier to manage and probably safer. And I'm certain that there will be plenty of that type of riding. I'm sure we will have plenty of maps of the area for everyone to use in case they want to do smaller group rides. Everyone's opinion is welcome and will be considered. I am a novice planning events such as this but one thing I do realize is; it needs to be fun for everyone. With that in mind, if there is a group that wants to do their own ride, we could certainly announce it if they wouldn't mind others going with them.
So if more members want to let us know their preferences between planned and unplanned rides we would welcome their input. The result being everyone can make the best use of their time there and get the most out of their visit!
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Bernie, you're doing a fine job and I know that we will all enjoy the event. I look forward to meeting you and the other members that I have not met as well as the members that I have had the privelege of meeting. the only problem with these Nassir events is that you will make new friends that you will not be able to see frequently enough in the future.
 

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Good points and good discussion everyone! I think what we had in mind for NASSIR 7 and the rides was that we wanted both options available to everyone (best of both worlds). This was done at NASSIR 5 with great success. In other words, have led rides of various lengths available for those that don't want to have to think too hard about planning out a ride and on the other hand having route documentation available for those that prefer to go it alone or set up their own small groups. I really want people to know that even though we plan out some rides it doesn't mean that we expect everyone to go on them or that we won't support self led rides as well. This same principle is planned for all of our optional events. We will set things up for those that want it and everyone is free to go off on their own which often happens.
 

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Bernie, you're doing a fine job and I know that we will all enjoy the event. I look forward to meeting you and the other members that I have not met as well as the members that I have had the privelege of meeting. the only problem with these Nassir events is that you will make new friends that you will not be able to see frequently enough in the future.
I agree. I especially liked it when he said he wanted to know all our preferences. I was gonna tell him how much I liked blueberry muffins with my mornin' coffee (in bed)... then reading on I see that's not what he was talking about. ;)

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I agree. I especially liked it when he said he wanted to know all our preferences. I was gonna tell him how much I liked blueberry muffins with my mornin' coffee (in bed)... then reading on I see that's not what he was talking about. ;)

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Let's think about this...

It's 6:00am Wensday morning during NASSIR 7. You open yer eye's and on one side of the bed there's Halfling with your coffee.. In a panic you look to the other side and there stands Dubswing with your blueberry muffin's.... :shock:

I'll leave the rest to your imaginations.... :grin: :dude: :grin:
 
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