[firefighterrider]

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After getting the water pump, pulse generator, timing belt, fuel pump and syncing the TB, I now have a oil leak behind the PG at the seal. Reading some old posts the seal is "very easily damaged" I do remember when I replaced the PG the PG housing pulled away from the shaft (MY FAULT!!) and I pushed it back in. What else would you do??

All was good last week when I got things lined out but after a few hundred miles I came home and had oil all on my pant leg and shoe and down the side of the bike. Dripping oil at 70mph!

But after cleaning all around the PG housing and engine cover I see it leaking at the bottom or side where the seal is.

The oil leaks when it's on the center stand but very little if any on the kickstand

QUESTION #1 IS...is there a seal that could be locally found without ordering one and taking all week from Honda. Honda partsfinder show the cost $5.99 so that's not a issue just if there is a known replacement that can be bought and save me days of waiting.

QUESTION #2 I'm going out on a limb and guess if I leave the bike on the center stand and replace the seal I'll have some oil draining issue but can I put it on the kickstand and get by without draining the oil

Thanks for all the help

John

 

[DaveO430]

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#1, the oil seal is a 22x35x7, go to or call a parts store and ask if they have a seal that size.
#2, there should be very little oil there unless you have it severely over filled.

 

[firefighterrider]

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Thanks Dave
I'll start checking Monday

If the oil is no problem I'll go ahead & pull it tomorrow.

Thanks

 

[Ken Bergen]

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From what you've described it's more likely the gasket between the PG case and head which you'll want to replace anyway as you'll be pulling the case to replace the seal.

For the seal I'd wait a week or more for the high quality Honda seal rather than the junk seals most jobbers sell.

Check delivery time at both the Motorcycle and car dealer.

Part number at the car dealer is J1160-22824 used in several transmission input shafts.

Edit: Check the seal either one tries to sell you as I've seen some dealers "No names" try to pass off locally purchased junk seals as OEM.

 

[DaveO430]

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The part # at a Honda car dealer is 91216-PA0-003, the computer is not going to recognize J1160-22824.

 

[Ken Bergen]

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DaveO430 wrote:

The part # at a Honda car dealer is 91216-PA0-003, the computer is not going to recognize J1160-22824.

I don't have access to a dealer computer so can only go by numbers found on the internet.

Thanks for posting a number that the dealer will recognize.

 

[DaveO430]

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Just for curiosity I went and checked and it is the same part # for the bike and the car, that is really un Honda who will use a different # for the same part for 2 different cars.

 

[Ken Bergen]

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DaveO430 wrote:

Just for curiosity I went and checked and it is the same part # for the bike and the car, that is really un Honda who will use a different # for the same part for 2 different cars.

Sort of like 22885-MB0-006 used on every Goldwing clutch master cylinder from 1984 on and perhaps others?

 

[blackknytecnc]

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I went to a place here in AZ called bearing belt and chain, they had the oil seals for just a couple bucks a piece. After trashing two of the OEM seals, I decided that was the better option. I think the ones I got were temken. There should be a similar place in your area. Get a couple just in case, because they are easy to mess up.

The base gasket is still available from honda, and that one's kind of a pita to get to seal too. But if those two seals are taken care of, the seal between case halves is only needed to keep outside stuff out... at least that's my experience.

Mine took 4 attempts and a lot of bad words, but it's been sealed up now for about a year.

 

[firefighterrider]

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Thanks guys..l'll call the Honda shop tomorrow & check their time frame, and call the Honda car dealer too.

 

[firefighterrider]

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Thanks guys..l'll call the Honda shop tomorrow & check their time frame, and call the Honda car dealer too.

 

[firefighterrider]

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Got the PG case off and I was kinda surprised there was not as much oil in there as I thought there might be but I'm guessing under running temps and conditions there's more then. The back side of the seal had some small peices hanging and what appears to be a REAL THIN ring of the seal was worn off. It looked like a flat o ring but it was so thin it had to be just worn off. The seal was a bugger to get out but I got it out. Local Honda store is closed to today but AutoZone has the 91216-PA0-003 part in thier warehouse and I'll have it this afternoon

So we'll try it later

 

[blackknytecnc]

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How are you installing the seal? Are you using a socket?

 

[firefighterrider]

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Autozone did not get the seal in until 830 tonight. It was suppose to be on their 4:30pm truck but oh well, headed there 1st thing in the morning

I'll have to find a socket to fit or try the PVC trick. I told them to send me two of the seals just in case!

 

[firefighterrider]

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Got the seal in OK, and took it out for about 60 mile road test ride and so far it's not leaking. Like I told someone else I'm not calling it fix until I get a few hundred miles on it! BTW Autozone seal was $5.60+tax

 

[firefighterrider]

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Got the seal in OK, and took it out for about 60 mile road test ride and so far it's not leaking. Like I told someone else I'm not calling it fix until I get a few hundred miles on it! BTW Autozone seal was $5.60+tax