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I don't have a 1500 so my CT will not fit your bike. I have a Kumho Ecsta Run on Flat on my 1800 that I put on there 3 years ago to make a trip to Alaska. I had an Avon Venom that bulged at the sidewall and felt like sponge rubber after 3,000 miles and a Dunlop E3 that separated across the tread at less than 2,000 miles. In the first 7 years of owning the bike I went through 10 rear tires.

Differences:
1: Tread last a lot longer, usually got 8-12K on a rear tire (2 up trailering). I have had this one on for over 24K and will probably change it out at the end of this riding season.
2: It takes just slightly more pressure on the handlebars to keep the bike in a turn. Once I got past the first 50 miles I did not notice it any more.
3: Much harder to get on the rim than the bike tire due to the very stiff sidewalls.
4: Slightly smoother ride .... this may be just my imagination....

No real change to the bikes handling and performance once you get used to the tire.

No real negatives for me yet...of course I haven't tried getting it off yet either!!

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Austone rear, love it. Not much else to say since Chromo (I think) said it all.

I hit black ice twice last year, it started to slip out but as long as I didn't drop the throttle suddenly or a lot that wider tires footprint created more drag than the MT does. It straightened me out = confidence booster.

I just finished the head bearings and replaced the Battlax BT45 130/70-18 with a Battlax BT45 130/80-18 (no typo). Got a little scary when I put on the fender brace. Tire to brace clearance was a hair under 1/8 inch (3mm to you udd'r folks). Then when I installed the 2 part fender, there were 2 screws on the chrome extension that were hitting the tire. No biggie, ground them flush. Another scare,... when I gave the tire a spin the new tire nubbs were buzzing on the fender brace. Sandpaper block took care of that noise.

#1 WOW!!! the whole bike actually feels higher with 2 taller tires.
#2 WOW!!! sure is a difference between a well used front tire and a new one. Twitchy & snappy is the steering input.
#3 WOW!!! sure is super EZ to set the center stand. Side stand, it leans over a bit more.

Have not had any time on it yet except around the block test.
MORE INFO when I get some time on this setup.
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This is really interesting I'm learning a lot about the Darkside that you just never hear...
 

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Conversely, my CT is Smaller than the stock E3, therefore making for Higher rpm's during cruise ...I also see no effect on Mileage.

I believe this goes to prove that Engine RPM is less important in terms of mpg's, than is Aerodynamic Drag ...eg You'd probably get higher mpg's using a smaller windshield (with less drag) than changing the gearing via different tire diameter; or for that matter, adding an Overdrive Gear as some have wished for.
I agree with this thought - although that is a subject for another thread and I do not wish to hijack the conversation.
 

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I have an 1800 with the CT. LOVE IT! Someone said the difference between 1500 and 1800 could make a difference.

PurplePirate: You live close enough where some day we could meet up and you take my 1800 for a spin. I have been 100 mph+ (short time), high speed hard lean corners, and now practicing slow speed, scrapping parking lot cornering.

In one month of having this tire, I have put 5,000 miles on it and LOVE IT! Did an Iron Butt run of 2,000 miles right when I put it on. Great way to test this sucker! Rode 68 miles of "mountain rain" and never felt fear like I did when I was on an E3. Had an E3 on my 1500 too. Rain spooked me with a MT. This CT didn't change my ride as much as some people say it does. My thought: If I get on any motorcycle, I have to learn how it performs. Might be just like mine, might be some what different. No big deal. You learn it and ride it. It is your bike and you learn the traits. I was shocked how fast I took to the CT. Shake the mental fears and all was good then. Now I pushed hard cornering and never even consider this is a CT. My parents were behind me in a car and said the sight of that big wheel on its side was interesting! They can't believe how far that bike leans!

One last thing. I use to scrape pegs with MT. Now, I take the same corners and off/on ramps and no scrapping. Hmmm. I am now pushing higher speeds just to find my pegs. LOVE IT!

Pic was just taken the other day. 5,000 miles on it. The nipples on the left side are gone. The right side has just a few hanging on yet. I am practicing harder right hand corners. Tire shows I favor my left handers!
 

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Short and sweet answer.......

I have an Austone on the 1500 and hate it, not the tire itself, but how the tire makes my bike feel at higher speeds, not a safe feeling. I'm sure there are many variables as to why some of us feel this and others don't.

I have a Yoko run flat on my 1800 and will never run anything else, love that tire!!

I think a ct gives the safety and affordability that makes sense to me.

(Drugged up right now so if that doesn't make sense, sorry)
 

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There is a strange sensation at high speeds on my bike as well. Feels like the rear end is swaying back and forth. HOWEVER.....it was there while the old E3 was on it as well. To get to that feeling I have to hit 85. Past my comfort zone anyway, so no rips given from me.
 

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Just to jump in here with an 1800 experience, I would no way, no how ever in my lifetime go back to a MC tire on the rear of my bike. It is simply, hands down the best modification I have made to the 2 1800s I have owned. I have over 125,000 miles on as best I can remember 10 car tires of 5 different brands/types and never a negative experience with one.
 

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And I love the darkside/Darth sticker...
Gotta get one.
 

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another gl1800 experience

While not a gl1500, I also like the darkside. There are many choices. Here are things in my experience that you may also find...

  • While you will "figure it out" after about an hour on the darkside, it really becomes second nature after a 1000 miles, maybe 2000. I have 5K on my first CT. While I am most likely never going back, I will probably try other car tires to see what I like best.
  • Tire pressure is very important and your pressure will vary by riding style, load on the bike, riding conditions, road conditions. I have found that more air is not necessarily better. There are people who swear 28lbs in a particular tire is perfect and others decry that 40lbs is perfect for the same tire. So play around with it. I am keeping a log.
  • Uneven areas, especially at low speeds, need more care and diligence. A CT will really wants to find the lowest point. Easy to watch for, but you'll lay the bike over if you forget.
  • If you are VERY aggressive, the front may slip out first :shock:. While I never approach that level of aggressiveness, others have and posted warnings.
  • For double dark, watch out for 2 and 3 compound tires if you are aggressive, the edges tend to wear faster on those types of tires.
  • You'll love went, leaf strewn, twisty roads, the darkside does not care about such things. Of course the downside is investing in heated waterproof gear.
  • If you choose run flat - get a TPMS. At speed several have complained that they did not know the tire was flat (zero pressure) until they tried to stop and things got squirrely.
For me - the cost, long life, run flat properties were big selling points. Now with 5K on the tire, I am very happy.
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This is truly more information on the Darkside then I have seen in the last 5 years on here...
I think it helps that no one is Kabitzing and everyone is being really honest.

I rarely ever ride above 75 on my wing so 85+ shouldn't be a problem for me. I always plan my trips so I have plenty of time the problem recently has been doing 70 on the local freeways. The roads are really bad and my rear tire is an E3 and it just doesn't do well. If it rains the tire slips out way to easily and scares me a quite regularly. I just don't like the E3 at all I think it's a bad tire design. That tire is why I am considering a Darkside tire. More and More Gail and I are riding long distance roads and the twisty windies aren't really tight. It's not like we are riding the Dragon. Gail has started pointing out all the Darkside bikes and she says if I feel it will make the ride better then I should go for it,.
 

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A spare wheel can be had very very little money. Buy one, put a tire on it and have a try. If for some reason it just don't suit you, take it off and resell it. Lots of folks will buy one already mounted.
The MC tire I took off was worn down in center to wear bars, still had nubs 1/8" from the side, it only made sense to install a flat face tire in its place since my wing never leans
 

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It's not like we are riding the Dragon.

Even if you rode the Dragon, the road is more hype than anything. Yes, lots of corners, but taking the corners at a normal speed (like you would in a car) they are nothing to worry about. Now 180 degree switchbacks like a road I was told about in Arkansas, that took some lean and driving! Using the right gear and rpm is the key here, not the tire. All do fine unless you are over driving it thru a corner. I did find residential roads in Tennessee that were switchbacks. Going that slow, tires were not my issue. The CT will allow me to lean more this year when I go back in July.

Offer still stands if you want to run on a 1800 to feel a CT. Can't offer my 1500 any more. We just missed you at Moonshine it sounds.
 

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I think I'm just going to buy a tire I have a spare wheel that I found in a goodwill one day. They wanted $5.00 for it as it had no tire I paid right away and have had it ever since.
 

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A spare wheel can be had very very little money. Buy one, put a tire on it and have a try. If for some reason it just don't suit you, take it off and resell it. Lots of folks will buy one already mounted.
That is what I did. I think I bought a wheel without a brake rotor for about $40 or $50? I forget. I just remember it needed new bearings and a rotor. Heck, the rotor was a lot pricier than the wheel. I just liked that if I did not like the Austone, I could switch right back that day. Didn't happen, but the option was nice.
 

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i just started running a c/t on my 2012 wing i'm using a non run flat yokohama envigor on the rear with 42-44 psi (tpm) love the tire rides smooth and quite. i only have around 800 miles on it. heading on a 2000 mile trip this aug. so cant wait to see how it does with the long ride time and mostly all highway miles. i ride 2-up and pull a cargo triler so it should put it to the test.
 

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That is what I did. I think I bought a wheel without a brake rotor for about $40 or $50? I forget. I just remember it needed new bearings and a rotor. Heck, the rotor was a lot pricier than the wheel. I just liked that if I did not like the Austone, I could switch right back that day. Didn't happen, but the option was nice.
Yep, and I followed suit, by buying your spare wheel.
 

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OK, Here's my experience. I have a 2013 wing. Last fall when the original tire wore out I went with a CT. The 1000 miles I put on it then wasn't a good test and probably the 1st 1000 miles this spring wasn't a good test. Too much cold weather riding and riding solo and most of it was back and forth to work. Over Memorial Day weekend we went on a trip - 300 miles south, a day trip on back roads and home. a little over 800 miles of 2 up riding with very little on interstates. I really didn't notice any issue or difference with the tire. One of the guys in the group asked how long I had been riding a CT. He said when he was following me it looked low on air and soft. I did check and it was at 42psi. There were plenty of twisty roads and I even dragged the hiway pegs. I've done that solo, but never 2 up before.

I have the Yoko endevor run-flat. I will keep an eye on the sidewalls and the tire, but so far I like it. I would like to get an extra wheel to try a MT again to see the difference. The last MT I had was wore out.

in three weeks we leave for a trip through the Ozarks pulling the camper. I'll report back how that went.

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Replaced an E3 with an Austone on my 1500 a year ago. Ran a cupped E3 on the front for first year with CT, and just changed to Avon Venom on front.

I dislike the rubbing which occurs between the Austone and the bike, when riding “heavy” over bumps, due to it’s larger circumference. I keep rear shock pressure at 55+, have attempted to fasten inner rear fender “up” for max clearance, combined passenger weight never more than 335 lbs, but still get occasional rubbing at points I can’t see underneath.

Austone with E3 front seemed to require more counter-steer than with E3 front-and-rear, but this is less of an issue since replacing the front E3 with new Avon.

Early impression was that more active steering/leaning was required to counteract road unevenness, but this is something I no longer notice.

Love the riding confidence. Had several alarming wet road rear-end slipping situations with the E3 on the back. Have not yet experienced ANY wet road slipping with Austone. Embarrassed to admit that I followed a road in the Arkansas mountains that turned into a “jeep trail”, which I had no business being on with a Goldwing. It was a scary place to be, but the Austone performed well in that situation with steep, loose gravel conditions.

Love that quiet ride and looking forward to extended wear.

The bike does stand taller with the Austone, but at 6’4” I can still stand over it very easily and don’t notice the extra height.

My year of riding the Austone includes a bunch of one, two and three day rides with one 10-day Chicago to Arkansas Ozarks round trip. This trip included a period of severe downpour which, at one point, forced most vehicles to the shoulders due to the intensity of the rain. The Austone provided solid traction all the time.

My rear tire choice was based on expectation for improved traction and I have not been disappointed.
 
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