Parts price and labor time, stator replacement vs. alternator conversion?
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If it was mine, I would just put in a stator, like from here:
https://www.partsnmore.com/cat_index.php?model=GL1200&category=electrical
$130 or $180 depends on model + gasket for $8.
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fabrication time or whatever of a conversion plus alternator plus belts, pulleys, cutting timing belt cover, brackets...
Just my $.02 worth!
If it was mine, I would just put in a stator, like from here:
https://www.partsnmore.com/cat_index.php?model=GL1200&category=electrical
$130 or $180 depends on model + gasket for $8.
vs.
fabrication time or whatever of a conversion plus alternator plus belts, pulleys, cutting timing belt cover, brackets...
Just my $.02 worth!
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I second that, 'specially if you have 2 Wings like your profile says...
I second that, 'specially if you have 2 Wings like your profile says...
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External alternator everytime. My bike had 2 original stators go in 34k miles. Not a task I enjoy doing every few years! External alternator is a proper fix. Didn't take long to do mine and that was making my own brackets too.......Steve
External alternator everytime. My bike had 2 original stators go in 34k miles. Not a task I enjoy doing every few years! External alternator is a proper fix. Didn't take long to do mine and that was making my own brackets too.......Steve
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I get mixed responses on this from all dealers and MC shops I delilver freight to.
Many say that if you hear good things and are up to the task go aead and pout an external alt but then they say that if you keep all your connectors clean and do your pre maint a stator is the way to go.
the major rewson for stator failure is moisture on the terminals not making a good contact and the resistance burning up the new stator. Like changing a tire and not changing the tire valve.
The 2nd major cause of failure is makknig your wing look like a UFO any electtrical circuit that has been constantly over loaded will fail.
I get mixed responses on this from all dealers and MC shops I delilver freight to.
Many say that if you hear good things and are up to the task go aead and pout an external alt but then they say that if you keep all your connectors clean and do your pre maint a stator is the way to go.
the major rewson for stator failure is moisture on the terminals not making a good contact and the resistance burning up the new stator. Like changing a tire and not changing the tire valve.
The 2nd major cause of failure is makknig your wing look like a UFO any electtrical circuit that has been constantly over loaded will fail.
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sounds like nither brianinmaine nor cody in mn have replaced their stator. the engine is commimg out to do the job. right now i am getting an extra set of timing belt covers to cut for the conversion and any fuse or relay plus wireing. i don't have the means to make brackets so i'll just buy a kit and an alternator
sounds like nither brianinmaine nor cody in mn have replaced their stator. the engine is commimg out to do the job. right now i am getting an extra set of timing belt covers to cut for the conversion and any fuse or relay plus wireing. i don't have the means to make brackets so i'll just buy a kit and an alternator
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muaymendez1 wrote:
Granted the poor connections might have a role in the demise.
The external is the way to go, funny thing is Honda figured it out on the 1500 and later models
muaymendez1 wrote:
The 1200 stator is putting out the maximum current after about 1300 RPM. What is not used is shunted to ground.
Granted the poor connections might have a role in the demise.
The external is the way to go, funny thing is Honda figured it out on the 1500 and later models
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i've changed several stators in different wings. not that hard a job.
stator 117.00 oil and filter, rear gaskets, coolant
mark:waving:
i've changed several stators in different wings. not that hard a job.
stator 117.00 oil and filter, rear gaskets, coolant
mark:waving:
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detdrbuzzard wrote:
detdrbuzzard wrote:
I just want to see more GoldWings keep their collector status
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zimmerleemark wrote:
It takes me 20 minutes to take out the external and a taxi cab ride to the nearest alternator shop for a rebuild.
We could hash this to death and it has been done several times, it really is a personal choice and whether you ride close to home or wander afar.
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It certainly isnt, it takes me about 4 hrs to take the motor out, but it's sure a PITA when I am in Arizona when it goes and I live in Ontario Canada.i've changed several stators in different wings. not that hard a job.
stator 117.00 oil and filter, rear gaskets, coolant
mark:waving:
It takes me 20 minutes to take out the external and a taxi cab ride to the nearest alternator shop for a rebuild.
We could hash this to death and it has been done several times, it really is a personal choice and whether you ride close to home or wander afar.
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newbiker wrote:
I spent about $100 doing my alt conversion. I bought a used alternator, had a crankshaft bushing machined locally, and made my own brackets. It took me three days last winter to complete the whole thing.If I were to do it again I would buy the Poorboy kit because it would only take me one day to do the conversion.
newbiker wrote:
The OP asked for time/money spent on doing a stator replacement or an alt conversion, not an opinion on whetherhe should do it or not.
I spent about $100 doing my alt conversion. I bought a used alternator, had a crankshaft bushing machined locally, and made my own brackets. It took me three days last winter to complete the whole thing.If I were to do it again I would buy the Poorboy kit because it would only take me one day to do the conversion.
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Thta does it for me. KNoing that honda thought of that design for the 1500 tells me that they saw the error of thier ways. I d like to see the shop guy who told me that external was no way to go.
I will put my order in close to winter. That will be my off season mod.
Thta does it for me. KNoing that honda thought of that design for the 1500 tells me that they saw the error of thier ways. I d like to see the shop guy who told me that external was no way to go.
I will put my order in close to winter. That will be my off season mod.
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What off season? you better make it a middle of the week mod. Polar bear season will be here before you know it, and you'll need the extra juice for the heated gear.
What off season? you better make it a middle of the week mod. Polar bear season will be here before you know it, and you'll need the extra juice for the heated gear.
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The corrosion is causing connection failure for sure. I had carmelized / fried alternator connections on a cb750.
Too many lights can't be helped by cleaning the connections.
The corrosion is causing connection failure for sure. I had carmelized / fried alternator connections on a cb750.
Too many lights can't be helped by cleaning the connections.
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I did the poorboy conversion. timewise and future issues considered, you would be silly not to do it. Like Tricky mentioned, I would hate to be a half world away and have the stator go out. If an alternator goes out, it is only a few minutes to rectify the issue. Not so if you replace the stator. My alternator has a lifetime warranty. I can get it replaced if anything goes wrong with it nationwide.
I did the poorboy conversion. timewise and future issues considered, you would be silly not to do it. Like Tricky mentioned, I would hate to be a half world away and have the stator go out. If an alternator goes out, it is only a few minutes to rectify the issue. Not so if you replace the stator. My alternator has a lifetime warranty. I can get it replaced if anything goes wrong with it nationwide.
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