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Got a pair of Michelin Pilot GT's. Put the bike on the lift. It's in the air and stable. The front tire was a piece of cake to remove. I would like to remove the rear tire without doing the saddlebag and frame lift. I've got the left saddlebag off, and would like step by step procedure for rear tire removal. TIA
 

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I read a thread on here that explains how to flip up the whole back end of the bike(saddle bags and trunk)with very little parts removal.If I can't find it maybe someone will be able to point you to it.
 

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Here's an alternative way to get the back wheel off of a 1500, You don't have to remove trunks or lights. No electrical connectors to take loose. You can even leave your hitch on!


1. Put the bike on the center stand. You don't need any jacks or blocks. Empty the trunks if you've got much weight in them.
2. Remove the seat (two allen-head bolts on each side in the handles).
3. Remove the shields at the fronts of the mufflers (two bolts on each side).
4. Loosen (do not remove) the exhaust pipe/muffler clamps (total of four bolts, two at the front of each muffler).
5. Remove the muffler bolts under the trunks (one each side), and rotate the mufflers down.
6. Support the rear assembly with a jack or block (taking precautions to protect the rear body work). Open the side trunks. On the inside wall of each trunk, near the front, is a rubber plug (on the SE/Aspencade, the air hose passes through this plug in the right trunk). Remove the plugs and REMOVE the bolt behind each plug (one each side).
7. Where the seat was, near the back, and just behind the shock mounts, are two bolts, one on each side of the frame, holding the rear frame to the main frame. Loosen (do not remove) these two bolts.
8. Step around to the back of the bike, take hold of the trunks underneath, and lift. The whole rear end (trunks, lights, hitch and all) will lift up and pivot on the two upper frame bolts, exposing the rear wheel and axle! Raise it up until the antennas touch the handlebars, and secure it in place. I looped a rope around the handlebars and tied it to the trunk rack to hold it up.
9. Loosen the bottom left shock bolt. Pull the axle and the brake caliper (lay the caliper on the crash bar). Slide the wheel left and it's out! The reason for the change in step 6 above is that when you lower the rear end back into position for reassembly, the two lower bolts will prevent you from putting it back down if they are not completely removed....................................
10. Reassembly is in reverse order of assembly. YOU MAY NEED A SECOND PERSON to help you lower the trunk pack back into position. This is because it may be necessary to pull out on the fronts of the side trunks while lowering them, so they will pass over the top mounts of the rear crash bars.
11. With support under the back end of the trunk pack, use a small mirror to look through the access holes in the side trunks. Line up the bolt holes in the rear crash bars with the holes in the frame. Start the bolts, then lower the trunk pack into position and tighten the bolts. The whole rear assembly is held on by the two top bolts, the bolts at the tops of the rear crash bars (the ones behind the rubber plugs) and the muffler bolts.
The frame pieces behind the trunks do not have holes for the bolts, just slots. When you reassemble the trunk pack to the frame, you can support the back of the trunk pack so the slots are just above the bolts. Start the bolts through the crash bars into the frame, then when you lower the pack into position, the slots will engage the bolts. Then you can tighten them down.
If you're on the side of the road, you can lower the rear assembly back down, put the seat back on, and lock your parts in the trunk while you get your tire repaired. This gives you access to the swing arm and shocks, too. You can service the whole rear end, replace shocks, etc., without disassembling the trunks.

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The rear subframe on the GL1500 (the frame that holds the trunks) is held by six bolts. Two at the top of the frame, under the seat near the rear; two behind the mufflers on the sides; and two behind the fronts of the side trunks. Loosen the top two, and remove the bottom four, and the whole subframe/trunk assembly will swing up away from the rear wheel.
Here's the EASY way to get the rear wheel off of a 1500. With practice, it takes about 15 minutes. And you can do it on the side of the road if you need to. You don't have to remove trunks or lights.
This procedure will vary depending on the accessories you have installed, like trunk bars, hitches, horns, etc. Normally, there should be no electrical connectors to take loose. In many cases, you can even leave your hitch on.
Recommended tools:
3/8" rachet
6" extension (3/8" drive)
3" extension (3/8" drive)
1/4" nut driver handle
8 mm socket (1/4" drive)
10 mm socket (3/8" drive)
12 mm socket (3/8" drive)
14 mm socket (3/8" drive)
Light
Small mechanic's mirror
Hydraulic jack or jack stand
Axle wrench from Honda tool kit
Allen wrench from Honda tool kit
1. Put the bike on the center stand. You don't need any jacks or blocks under the bike. Empty all three trunks.
2. Remove the seat. Remove the four Allen-head bolts, two on each side in the ends of the lift handles. Pull the seat cover pouch (SE) or the rear seat pad (Aspencade/Interstate) forward, out from under the passenger backrest. Lift the rear of the seat, and slide it back to disengage it from the front seat mount.
3. Using a 14 mm socket, loosen (do not remove) the two rear-most bolts on either side of the upper frame. These two bolts secure the top of the rear subframe. They must be loosened to allow the subframe to pivot up.
4. Remove both the left and right upper side covers.
5. Using an 8 mm socket on a nut driver handle, remove the metal shields that cover the fronts of the mufflers. They are each held on with two bolts. After the bolts are removed, pull down on the covers to disengage them from the body. Keep track of the rubber pieces that are attached.
6. Using a 10 mm socket on a 6" extension, loosen (do not remove) the exhaust pipe-to-muffler clamps. There are a total of four bolts, two at the front of each muffler.
7. Using a 12 mm socket on a 6" extension, remove the muffler bolts that secure the mufflers to the subframe, one bolt on each side.
8. Rotate the mufflers down. Twist the left-side muffler clockwise, the right-side muffler counter-clockwise. The mufflers will rotate on the exhaust pipes where you loosened the clamps in step 5. Rotate them only far enough to allow the axle to clear in step 16.
9. Open the side trunks. On the inside wall of each trunk, near the front, is a rubber plug (on the SE/Aspencade, the air hose passes through this plug in the right trunk). Remove the plugs.
10. Using a 12 mm socket on a 3" extension, loosen the bolt behind each plug, one on each side. These bolts are the top mounting bolts for the rear crash bars, and they secure the bottom of the rear subframe.
11. Place a jack or jack stand under the rear trunk assembly (taking precautions to protect the rear bodywork). Lift the rear of the trunk pack about 1 inch from its installed position.
12. Using a 12 mm socket on a 3" extension, remove the bolts you loosened in step 10.
13. Step around to the back of the bike, take hold of the trunks underneath, and lift. The whole rear end (trunks, lights, hitch and all) will lift up and pivot on the two upper subframe bolts, exposing the rear wheel and axle.
14. Raise the trunk pack up until the antennas touch the handlebars, and secure it in place. I simply loop a rope around the handlebars and tie it to my trunk rack to hold it up.
15. Using a 14 mm socket on a 6" extension, loosen the bottom left shock bolt until the bottom end of the brake caliper is free.
16. Remove the rear axle. Using the axle wrench from the Honda tool kit, remove the axle nut on the right side. Using a 10 mm socket, loosen the axle clamp bolt on the left side. Pull the axle out the left side.
17. Remove the brake caliper. Lay the caliper on the crash bar, wiring it in place if necessary to prevent it from falling and causing damage to the brake line.
18. Remove the spacer from the left-side center of the wheel hub.
19. Slide the wheel to the left, off of its splines. Drop the wheel to the floor and roll it out the back.
20. Reassembly is in reverse order of assembly, except as noted in steps 21-25 below.
Special instructions for starting the lower subframe bolts in the side trunks:
21. When you lower the trunk pack back into place, you may need an assistant to help you lower the trunk pack back into position. This is because it is necessary to pull out on the fronts of the side trunks while lowering them, so they will pass over the top mounts of the rear crash bars and the sides of the frame.
22. After lowering the trunk pack into position, support the back end of the trunk pack with a jack or jack stand. Take precautions to protect the bodywork from scratching. The trunk pack should be lifted just an inch or so above its final installed position.
23. Place a light in front of the side trunk, where it will shine between the frame and the trunk. Use a small mechanic's mirror to look through the access holes in the side trunks. Line up the bolt holes in the rear crash bars with the holes in the frame. The forked ends of the trunk pack's subframe should just clear the bolt holes. Adjust the jack under the trunk pack as necessary to give clear access to the bolt holes in the frame.
24. Using a 12 mm socket on a 3" extension (NOT your fingers!), start the bolts in the frame.
25. Lower the trunk pack into position, allowing the forked ends of the subframe to settle onto the still-loose bolts.
26. Using a 12 mm socket on a 3" extension, tighten the bolts you started in step 24.
27. Continue the reassembly in the reverse order of disassembly.
If you're on the side of the road with a flat rear tire, you can lower the rear assembly back down, put the seat back on, and lock your parts in the trunk while you get your tire repaired.
This procedure gives you access to the swing arm and shocks, too. You can service the whole rear end, replace shocks, grease splines, etc., without disassembling the trunks.
 

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WOW - great write-up :D. Same procedure I used - 'cept I took the trunk pack off instead of pivoting it :?. Had I known it would pivot, it would have saved a pile of time with all the disconnects and reconnects.
 

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L8ndeb wrote:
Hi All,
Tips were so good last time, I'm back for more!
Got a pair of Michelin Pilot GT's. Put the bike on the lift. It's in the air and stable. The front tire was a piece of cake to remove. I would like to remove the rear tire without doing the saddlebag and frame lift. I've got the left saddlebag off, and would like step by step procedure for rear tire removal. TIA
Once you've got the saddlebag off, remove the muffler mounting bolt on the frame, loosen the two bolts that clamp the muffler to thecollector and twist and swing the muff down enough to clear the axle. Remove the license plate panel to get more room to get the wheel out. You'll have to remove the right bag or at least swing down the right muff to get at the nut on that side. Loosen the big nut on the right side, you can use the tool in your tool kit along with the handle extender that makes up the handle of the tool box. I prefer to unbolt and suspend the caliper with a piece of wire to keep from straining the brake line at this point. Put a block under the wheel to take some of the weight as the axle comes out. With the nut off loosen the clamp bolt on the left side, stick a Phillips screwdriver or the rod from the tool kit in the eye on the axle and twist and pull it out. At that point it's just a matter of jiggling the wheel out. Make sure you have the front end blocked up, if you just pull the wheel out it will make the bike nose heavy and could cause the bike to tip off the jack. Make sure you note how the spacers and caliper bracket goes on so you don't have problems with reassembly.
 

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Man Chris - you made my day!!!!

I'm going put new tire on my 1500 next weekend. I was going to take the whole back end off as a unit, but now, I'm doing it your way!!!

Great detail and info - you da man!!!
 

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Thanks Paul. I knew there was a way.
Thanks for the write up Chris. I knew about that method, but since I purchased a lift, I knew there was a simpler way.
 

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I knew there must be a reason I don't do this for a living. I did as Paul suggested, got the wheel free, but I could not get the wheel past the final drive flange splines. No matter how I move the wheel, there was not enough clearance to get the wheel and rim past those splines. After removing the bracket the holds the caliper line, and removing the brake disk from the wheel, (anda hour and1/2 later), it occurred to me to reinstall the wheel on the final drive flange, then remove the wheel and flange as an assembly from the final drive gear housing. The SOB was out in 5 seconds. Live and learn. That's what I get for being so stubborn. :eek:)
 

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Leyton - The caliper mount has to be removed for sure - but the disk shouldn't have to come off the wheel to get it out. The driven flange, wheel and disk can be removed as a unit.

I don't understand what you are saying when you say "reinstall the wheel on the final drive flange, then remove the wheel and flange as an assembly"

It is tricky getting the driven flange to clear the gear housing but it will clear.
 

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That was my problem Jon. I was trying to remove the wheel with the driven flange still in the gear housing.
 

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Sorry not to mention it L8ndeb, it never occured to me to mention just pulling the wheel and flange clear of the final drive. Usually the flange is pretty well stuck in there so it comes out with the wheel without thinking about it. Glad you got it out okay.

Remote control advice via keyboard sometimes misses a detail or two.:goofygrin:
 

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I haven't had mine long enough to try it either way.Just thought I would throw that out there as an alternative.Looks pretty slick to me if you can do it without a lift.
 

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Don't forget the moly lube on those splines when you reassemble the rear end Leyton.
 

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Thanks a bundle to fatwing chris for posting the alternate way to get to rear wheel. It works like a charm! I did have an issue with one of the bolts behind the saddlebag but it was not a big deal. Thank You fatwing chris! Mana coming your way. :clapper:

I installed 2 new Elite 3's, new brake pads, front & back, oh...and a pretty cool drink holder. I got all of it for under $375. That includes the $20 for mounting BOTH tires at a local tire shop. I bought all the merchandise online.

The preliminary test ride went pretty good. No more wobble, tracking straight, no more chatter in corners. It's Christmas in June! :banana:
 

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Don't forget the moly lube on those splines when you reassemble the rear end Leyton.
Only if it is a 6 pin. If it is a 5 pinner, clean and leave dry.
 

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If your rear wheel will not clear the final drive assy. check to see if the flange with the splines has pulled out of the wheel. Just pull the flange out all the way or push it back into the wheel and then it will clear the final drive
 

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No the Valkryie is a whole different animal.
 
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