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So run the left and right turn signal to the same "Stop Light"?.
No the brake lights and signal lights are separate so you need a wire to the brake lights and two different wires one to the left signal light and the other to the right.
 

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So run the left and right turn signal to the same "Stop Light"? Wouldn't neither blink? Seems they would be shorted together? Mine are not wired individually except inside the trailer. Not at the 4 pin connector.

uh, no....

I may have condensed it too much.

If we are looking at my trailer, and the 1157 bulbs that are in the Marine Stop/Run/Signal light assembly.

The Stop Lamp/Turn filament is the biggest one, and the brightest.
that will now be the Turn Signal only.

The Left turn wire on the bike, goes to the Left trailer Stop Lamp filament.
The Right turn wire on the bike, goes to the Right trailer Stop Lamp filament.

The standard, "running light" is still just that, the smaller filament is just for Running Lights and all of the lights are normally run from just that one wire.

The bike's brake light wire which is BLUE is extended to the trailer runs to the 3 extra lights that I bought purposely to be used as the STOP lights.

This Blue Wire is not included in most trailer wiring hookups, but it should be.

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If I understand you correctly, your trailer is using the same exact light assembly as the standard GL1800 Saddle Bags are?

if so, you only need to go from wire color on the bike, to the same exact wire color on the trailer's light assembly.

There should be a Blue wire in the trailer's light assembly and it should be going to the Stop Lamps.
 

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I am wondering if I should add extra side lights on the trailer to add more visibility from the 90 degree off views??


Well, I gutted all the lights and all the wiring too. I NEVER use the trailer as a ground and run a to every light. Using the trailer as a ground always messes up... it's a mater of time. Don't cheap out.


In a nut shell, here in NS and probably in the rest of Canada, you are required to have your trailer visible with lights from all view angles from ground level. Amber in the front 1/2 and red in the rear. We refer to them as clearance, driving or parking lights. That includes the "dim" part of the brake light.


The rear facing red does not have to be part of the brake light, but they must be visible from the rear and in general all the lights must represent the dimensions of the trailer.


I believe that in the near future you will be required to have lights over the tires if they stick out from the trailer (like mine). I can't say for sure but I think I read that somewhere on or about the time I was redoing my trailer.


As you probably realize, when taking photos or filming LED lights they seem exceptionally bright and overload the camera optically. Most people understand this. The sun was low that evening which makes them look brighter than they are.


My rule of thumb when wiring up trailers, even if it's a new trailer, is to toss that 4 wire system. That means the lights too. If your bike (or car) has Red brake lights and Amber turn signals, why would you want to change that setup and go more complicated to save a few dollars and risk damaging your bike wiring if you don't know how to wire things up.


This was the trailer build along with other people builds too.


http://www.goldwingfacts.com/forums/98-trikes-trailers-sidecars/440490-goldwing-trailer-my-fixer-upper.html


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No the brake lights and signal lights are separate so you need a wire to the brake lights and two different wires one to the left signal light and the other to the right.
Yes, I have wired it without the converter and have one extra wire and it is the Brake light. Now every thing works but brake lights.

Here is what I have:

White - Ground - White on Goldwing
Brown - Tail Light - Brown on Goldwing
Yellow - Left Turn - Orange on Goldwing
Green - Right Turn - Light Blue on Goldwing

Left over on Gold wing is Red - Brake lights.

Anyone know a work around?
 

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Hi Jredman,


I hate to tell you but you have to use a 5 pin connector not a 4 pin.


The 5 pin connector has enough wires in it for you.


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That's five wire.

1: Tail/Running
2: Brake
3: Left blinker
4: Right blinker
5: Ground
I do have 5 running from the Bike, but just 4 on the trailer. This is why I figured I needed the converter, but with the converter, everything worked BUT the Right Side Flasher.
 

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You need to run a new wire on the trailer for this to work... 5 wires on the bike means that 5 wires have to be running back to the lights on the trailer.


That converter was suppose to "fix that" but it never does. Run that extra wire to both brake lights and you will be done.


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Hi Jredman,


I hate to tell you but you have to use a 5 pin connector not a 4 pin.


The 5 pin connector has enough wires in it for you.


Tim
My Trailer is just a 4 pin connector and not 5. The Goldwing is 5, that is why I have to use a 5 to 4 pin converter. I have that back on and everything works again, BUT the right side Flasher.
 

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You need to toss that converter.


You need to cut the 4 pin connector off the trailer.


You need to add a mating 5 pin connector for the wire on the trailer AND


You need to add another wire and run it from the new 5 pin connector to the brake lights.


If you do this then everything will work. What you are doing is matching the bike wiring and bulbs wire for wire and bulb for bulb in parallel.


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You need to toss that converter.


You need to cut the 4 pin connector off the trailer.

You need to add a mating 5 pin connector for the wire on the trailer AND

You need to add another wire and run it from the new 5 pin connector to the brake lights.

If you do this then everything will work. What you are doing is matching the bike wiring and bulbs wire for wire and bulb for bulb in parallel.

Tim
This is what I have been trying to tell him from the very first post.
Referring back to my post: http://www.goldwingfacts.com/forums/2-goldwing-technical-forum/605761-right-side-hazzard-trailer-not-flashing-2.html#post4503649
we are telling him the same exact thing.


4 wires to the trailer will NOT work.


Here is what I have:

White - Ground - White on Goldwing
Brown - Tail Light - Brown on Goldwing
Yellow - Left Turn - Orange on Goldwing
Green - Right Turn - Light Blue on Goldwing

Left over on Gold wing is Red - Brake lights.
you must run that RED wire to the trailer's brake lights....
unless you do, you are never going to make it work right.

The converters are doomed, they never work right... I paid for them, and so have you, and both of us have to throw them in the trash.... wasted money, never was needed.

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Hi all, I have wired my trailer to my Goldwing Trike. I have the 5 wire to 4 wire converter from Wingstuff. Verified wiring is correct 5 times.

Everything works perfect, Tail Lights, Right Turn, Left Turn, Blinkers, and Brake lights all work perfectly on bike and trailer. Have bike grounded and even did a separate ground on the trailer.

When I turn on the Hazard Lights, work great on Bike and only the left side of the Trailer Flashes. Not the Right side. I have tried everything I know of.
Could my 5-4 wire converter be bad?:surprise:

Any suggestions? Thanks so much.
This is a very common problem:
If you have LED lights on your trailer you will need LED converter:
http://www.hopkinstowingsolutions.com/products/vehicle-wiring-connectors/taillight-converters/led_compatible_taillight_converter.html
 

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If you have LED lights on your trailer you will need this converter:
http://www.hopkinstowingsolutions.co...converter.html

ummmm,
If the trailer lights are wired in parallel, it don't make a darn what kind of lights are on it.... LEDs or the standard filament bulbs.

do not use any converters, just wire for wire, color to color.

he is using a standard GL1800 Saddle Bag light assembly on his trailer.

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As everyone has figured out it can be confusing.

The thing to remember is that the 4 wire has a ground, (white) Tail lights (brown) left turn, (yellow) right turn, (green) and the brake lights are just the left and right turn lights on at the same time 4 wires and 3 functions on 2 filaments.

The 5 wire has a ground, (white) Tail lights (brown) left turn, (yellow) right turn, (green) The brake light needs its own dedicated wire from the bikes brake light to the dedicated brake light on the trailer. That's 5 wires and 3 functions on 3 filaments.

Clear as mud, huh? :)
 

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As everyone has figured out it can be confusing.

The thing to remember is that the 4 wire has a ground, (white) Tail lights (brown) left turn, (yellow) right turn, (green) and the brake lights are just the left and right turn lights on at the same time 4 wires and 3 functions on 2 filaments.

The 5 wire has a ground, (white) Tail lights (brown) left turn, (yellow) right turn, (green) The brake light needs its own dedicated wire from the bikes brake light to the dedicated brake light on the trailer. That's 5 wires and 3 functions on 3 filaments.

Clear as mud, huh? :)
It really is clear as mud, everyone has kind of different things to say. I bought another converter, it is better but now my brake lights are the yellow blinkers instead of the Red brake lights. It is the Hodkins like in one of the links above. I have tried two different converters and I have to to say now, none of them work just right with the Gold wing. I think I am going to have to undo the splices in the trailer and separate the brake lights, run separate wires for that and go to 5 wire.

Maybe better yet take it to someone to wire everything so it works perfectly. I have to get it safety inspected and if the lights never work correctly it will fail.
 

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I think I am going to have to undo the splices in the trailer and separate the brake lights, run separate wires for that and go to 5 wire.

Maybe better yet take it to someone to wire everything so it works perfectly. I have to get it safety inspected and if the lights never work correctly it will fail.


This is exactly what we have be saying.... run that extra wire!!


If you are uncomfortable with wiring then that is the proper thing to do... getting someone that knows what they are doing to do it right for you. In this case running the new wire for the brake light and using a 5 pin connector on the trailer is the proper thing to do.


I would not worry about your bike failing inspection. My worry would be in damaging the bike wiring if wired incorrectly.


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It really is clear as mud, everyone has kind of different things to say. I bought another converter, it is better but now my brake lights are the yellow blinkers instead of the Red brake lights. It is the Hodkins like in one of the links above. I have tried two different converters and I have to to say now, none of them work just right with the Gold wing. I think I am going to have to undo the splices in the trailer and separate the brake lights, run separate wires for that and go to 5 wire.

Maybe better yet take it to someone to wire everything so it works perfectly. I have to get it safety inspected and if the lights never work correctly it will fail.
You are almost done.
White to ground as you said is correct.
Green for right turn is correct
Yellow for left turn is correct
Brown for tail lights is correct
Now just find a red light you find attractive and mount it. Ground one of it's wires and hook the other (red) wire to the remaining wire on the new light.
 
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