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sounds like a Jake brake from 1/2 to full throttle

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Tib
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Hello and any and all advice welcome, and wanted!


I named the 1981 Gl1100I that I just got. (Summer) :)

Then I took her out for a nice long drive. After 134 miles of steep winding roads, dragging the floorboards in the endless switchbacks. We got to the back side of the mountain and I headed for the highway, sure it was my turn to shine I rolled her up to 75mph put my feet up and settled in to my nice long ride home. :)

After about 30 min Summer can hardly stay running if you crack the throttle open Summer has a low throaty sound. sounds like a Jake break on a truck, and total loss of power throttle closed she purrs along but not with her normal power. About ½ cracked she will run and did drive about 3 miles at about 45 mph top speed to where I could pull off.

I called for some advice (no answer) so I had a bite to eat was there about an hour and then she fired up and ran top form for about 10 more miles then she did it again. This time I noticed a smell coming from the exhaust that almost smelled like an electrical fire, just a hint but that’s as best as I can describe it. She sat for about 30 min and ran 16 more miles and failed me again.

Now I call for a tow, but the tow truck will not take her home only to the closest shop so I decide to test the stock tool kit. If I can get her 35 more miles she will get towed to a shop in Vancouver where I live and not Tacoma, WA. That happens to be the other way.

I pull the fuel line blow it out (by mouth) crack the gas cap open and left her loose, then wait for rush hour traffic to clear and called and have my wife fallow me home so a truck don’t run me over if she dies on I5 south. I set off for home 2 hrs later, she does it for just a few seconds 2 more times but rights herself and she makes it all the way home.

The final drive home I only drove top gear at about 55-60 mph never opened the throttle over about ½ way and she did ok. Thank god she made it home.

After a complete cool down and sitting she seems to run like the wind strong and full throttle is not a problem.

OK now for the advice part, any ideas what is wrong and what should I check first?

1981 GL1100I full dressed, carbs last gone thru 2 years ago at 49k miles (by Honda) 57579 miles on her now how long she has been sitting I don’t know. She had been sitting out side when I got her, the cover she was under was torn and she was wet everywhere.

Thank you for any help you can offer.

Kelly
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exavid
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If it's still behaving I'd give her a half can of Sea Foam to a tank of fresh fuel and do some close to home rides for 50-100 miles and see how she does. It might have been some crud in the carb that passed through, could even have been a dose of water especially if the bike was sitting outside for a good while. With Sea Foam in the tank you'll get a bit of smoke when starting up. I just gave my 1500 her annual Sea Foam tonic the other day and she does the same but has smoothed out as usual even though I didn't think it was running anything but smooth before.
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Hatchetman
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Hi Tib. I dont think your problem is a big one but these are the things that can make a Wing run that way.
#1) pulse coils beginning to fail as they heat up. Bike runs awesome until hot & than it fails.
#2) Plugged up fuel filter.
#3) diaphram in fuel pump beginning to fail & not pushing full volume which starves the fuel bowls in the carbs.
#4) resistors in the plug boots beginning to fail causing weak spark.

It sounds to me like the fuel system is beginning to starve for fuel as you open it up. The fuel cant get into the bowls fast enough & they go empty. Look for a restriction in flow!
Keep us posted, Other members will join in soon!
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Bike...and Dennis
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Hi Tib,

I think your bike's just paying you back fornamingit Summer... I know I'd be pissed.
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William_86
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Bike...and Dennis wrote:
Hi Tib,

I think your bike's just paying you back fornamingit Summer... I know I'd be pissed.
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I would check air filter and fuel pump, what do you know about Summer?. did she sit for long time? probably needs some care. carb cleanning and fuel lines replaced, new plugs.

once you get her running properly start doing the basic maintenance. like timing belts, final drive oil, fork oil.

Good luck
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ding dong
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Clean or replace fuel cap. Common problem. The vent in the cap plugs up.
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Tib
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thanks for all the advice!

She loves the name SUMMER and I am sure she wants to run real good so she gets the bright yellow paint I promised her. (rofl):cheeky1: Needless to say till she has NO drive ability probs the paint is out.:shock:


Where do I find sea foam as I have never heard of it, any auto parts store?

I also think it is a starving carbs, but want to wash out all the junk before i change the filters and pull the pump apart.

lines filters and pump are the next thing she will get. pulled the plugs and the all look the same with white ashy deposits and tan/reddish insulator

A freind said if the gas cap don't have good air flow it can cause a vacumm in the tank and do this to the bike

what do ya think????


thanks and keep it coming

Tib
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johnnynogood
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Bike...and Dennis wrote:
Hi Tib,

I think your bike's just paying you back fornamingit Summer... I know I'd be pissed.
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If you give a machine a persons name, they usually beome a person. In your case, a woman that does not like you to demand such hard work from her. Things are bound to get worse. You better go see Father O'malley and Exorcise that she devil out of there. STOP NAMING THESE MACHINES! They have names. GL11000 Goldwing Interstate is my bikes name.
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Tib
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gas cap, fuel lines, fuel filter ordered!

Cant find anyone that knows what sea foam is or that carries it yet.
(Start call auto parts stores next)
if you know of a chain store that carries it plz pm me or post who has it.

Let you all know if its fixed, as soon as I know, fule cap comes in 3-8 days!

Oh Father O'malley wanted me to let johnnynogood know that Summer said hello and she was only upset because she did not want to go home.:whip: She has Issues with going home because after her last long ride she was parked for 2 years in the rain and then sold.:shock:

Thanks for all the advice and friendly banter!

This is a great site

Tib
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Wichita Scorpion
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Sea Foam is in most any auto parts store. Located with the fuel addatives. Sea Foam will not damage anything like some addatives.
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I am voting fuel cap vent plugged. Just had a lawn mower do the same exact thing. Run great for about 1/2 hour and would die out, let it sit for a while, fire it up, run great again for another 1/2 hour. Turn out to be the fuel cap vent was plugged.
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deradler1
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Tib-

I got my can of Sea Foam at my local Auto Zone. I believe you can also get it at NAPA stores. Any place that sells auto or marine additives should carry it.

It will at least let you eliminate some of the other possibilities.
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Tib
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again thanks for the votes and advice!

Will be calling napa and auto zone in a few min, need to get some MMO and oil and a filter too.

But i do have another question do I need the braided fuel line like is on my bike or the upbraided like the motorcycle shop sold me? I would assume the gravity feed side to the pump will be fine with what I was sold but the high pressure side might need braided line.

thanks again!

TIB
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Hatchetman
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Fuel line: proper size is important. You dont need braided line but it must be fuel line!

side note for sea foam. you can use it in your fuel as a stabilizer too. it will keep gas active for up to 2 years!
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Tib
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Well added sea foam and punched a small hole in the gas cap so it would vent.(new cap not in yet)All fuel lines changes and the filter.

seems to be running better, but I have yet to take more than a few miles on the highway at a time. Going to run 3 doses of sea foam through in small city trips and short highway trips Change the timing belts then go for another longer highway run.

But for now Summer seems to be running good.


Thanks for all the advice!

I also think I will stick to the Delo 400 15/40 oil she has always run. glad she has good tires looks like the tires for a 81 Gl1100I are not the easiest to get, and very little selection.

I was going to start a poll :Don favorite oils and tires for the 1981 gl1100I:cheeky1::cheeky1::cheeky1::cheeky1:.

I did join several gold wing community's when I got summer, but I am going to call this one home!!!!! You guys are great!

(Oh and just wanted to know does the chrome side engine panels for the 1100 really cook the stator or is "stator cooker" a nick name that was not really deserved?)

TIB
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Bschofield
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dingdong wrote:
Clean or replace fuel cap. Common problem. The vent in the cap plugs up.
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This just happened to me this week. when i took the cap off it had a vacuum. so i rode without the cap without a problem. so i got home, soaked the cap in sea foam and tapped it on the ground a few times. bunch of rust and crap came out. no more vacuum after i ride.

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Dancinbear
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My 1200 had side chrome engine panels.. never hurt anything. The wings are water cooled, so don't really understand that logic. Do and get what you like with yer bike.

Summer huh.......... it may be that since you named her after a woman, she has decided to be like the other women in your life and not let you ride her either.

AAAAHHHHHHhhh ha ha aha haa.




Just funnin' ya..........now get out there and ride.
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jpbadger9
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Have you looked for rust in the fuel tank? Those little specs can go right though the filter and start plugging jets....
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Tib
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As to the rust in the tank issue I cut the old filter apart and did not even find rust in it so I think the cap was the problem. (should of known when i took the cap off and the tank sucked air.):gunhead:

There is no doubt Summer is a girl, but the name was for the summer yellow paint I want to put on her and the season that she will shine in.:cooldj:

Another question though: seems to blow the blues once I put the sea foam in does sea foam cause some blue/gray smoke out the pipes or is the crap that it is breaking up?

thanks again

Tib
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SeaFoam will definitely blow smoke, even says so right on the can. Plus if you leave the bike sitting on the sidestand for more than a few days, oil will collect in the lower cylinders and get blown out upon startup.

Hey, want some real entertainment? Slowly dribble SeaFoam directly into your intake when running. Get a gas mask.
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