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Could it be the starter motor itself growling?
Could it be the starter motor itself growling?
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My 78 gl1000 that I put together had a starter after growl that I thought was the clutch. I have ran it for about 200 miles and pulled it back out, dropped the rear cover and can't see a thing that is wrong. Is it the nature of the beast to have a starter lag sound when you first start up cold? All of the bearings were good and I didn't find any flat spots in the rollers, they all move freely. I even put it together without the starter gear and it all spun free.
My 78 gl1000 that I put together had a starter after growl that I thought was the clutch. I have ran it for about 200 miles and pulled it back out, dropped the rear cover and can't see a thing that is wrong. Is it the nature of the beast to have a starter lag sound when you first start up cold? All of the bearings were good and I didn't find any flat spots in the rollers, they all move freely. I even put it together without the starter gear and it all spun free.
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have you greased the plantry gears in the starter ??
have you greased the plantry gears in the starter ??
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If the sprag clutch stays engaged after you let off the starter button there will be a scraping kind of growl until it drops free.
If the sprag clutch stays engaged after you let off the starter button there will be a scraping kind of growl until it drops free.
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Thanks for the thoughts, no I haven't pulled the starter apart to grease it. I put it back in after oiling up the bearings in the clutch and its better, I think that when you do a quick rev and let of that the starter clutch rollers might recatch a little on these old bikes? I built this motor out of parts and it does well, still playing a little with the carbs, pulled them all apart and found more crud in the jets. The only thing that I have problems with now is a miss or hesitation at low throttle, not sure if it's carbs or maybe the resister. It has new point and condenser. Thanks
Thanks for the thoughts, no I haven't pulled the starter apart to grease it. I put it back in after oiling up the bearings in the clutch and its better, I think that when you do a quick rev and let of that the starter clutch rollers might recatch a little on these old bikes? I built this motor out of parts and it does well, still playing a little with the carbs, pulled them all apart and found more crud in the jets. The only thing that I have problems with now is a miss or hesitation at low throttle, not sure if it's carbs or maybe the resister. It has new point and condenser. Thanks
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My brother in law had a similar trouble with the starter on 83 Aspy. THe starter would sometimes just buzz. The starter itself was running, but wouldn't turn the motor over. I changed the gear on the starter in the chain, no good. Changed the starter and it worked for about a month and then the same thing. I took out the motor, changed the starter clutch, and still the same thing. I was totally in awe. Couldn't figure it out for an hour or so. Then I took the starter off again, getting good at it now. The outside or sun gear was made of plastic? and it was turning inside the starter, instead of the small gears turning. Went back to the original starter, and the gear was metal. Installed it in the new starter and it worked like a charm. I believe someone is selling Chinese starters. I went through 2 of them and then a starter clutch to find out it was just the cheaply made starter. It cost about 6oo to find this out. Shows how stupid I can be sometimes I guess. Hope this might help some others with the same problem
My brother in law had a similar trouble with the starter on 83 Aspy. THe starter would sometimes just buzz. The starter itself was running, but wouldn't turn the motor over. I changed the gear on the starter in the chain, no good. Changed the starter and it worked for about a month and then the same thing. I took out the motor, changed the starter clutch, and still the same thing. I was totally in awe. Couldn't figure it out for an hour or so. Then I took the starter off again, getting good at it now. The outside or sun gear was made of plastic? and it was turning inside the starter, instead of the small gears turning. Went back to the original starter, and the gear was metal. Installed it in the new starter and it worked like a charm. I believe someone is selling Chinese starters. I went through 2 of them and then a starter clutch to find out it was just the cheaply made starter. It cost about 6oo to find this out. Shows how stupid I can be sometimes I guess. Hope this might help some others with the same problem
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